Now that the hype is completely gone, can we admit Kendrick Lamar doesn't have a classic verse

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doing...WHAT?

I mean even 2 Chainz kills verses harder than Kendrick does most times. Big Sean? I mean come on. Drake?

Ya'll really on some co-sign shyt when y'all refuse to let the music stand on its own.

Its only cause he's on some "prison industrial complex is bad" tip that y'all eat all his shyt up.
Also, many of the critics and reviewers are Jews who will give anything with a social justice message a 10
 

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I'm from the same hood as Keef and this is just :laff:
That person is right, the keef influence is so easily seen on today's rap game. From fhe videos to the voices and adlibs.

Dudes like lil uvi vert, lil yachy and a bunch of other artist are offsprings off keef. He spear headed another movement until the mainstream with trying to be commercial.
 

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This verse is an example why I can't get into Kendrick. He all over the place in his lyrics to me. First he starts off by recalling his past and how nobody would believe what he may or may not have done...

but then throws in this random line: "If I'm mashing all of my skeletons, would you jump in the seat"

Who he talking to? The same ppl he says won't believe he used to be bout it? Is he talking to the same ppl when he asks in the next line if they're relieved by his intelligence? It doesn't make sense.

Then he says this new generation is in a better position b/c its "safe to say" they can dream about being "doctors, lawyers" BUT then starts to rant about violence, drugs and drinking in the streets.

You listen to this verse, and you don't walk away with ANYTHING. Is Kendrick trying to say we got problems or that we doing better? Is he saying he would get more cred for his maybe violent past or that ppl are "relieved" to find out he smart? The whole TPAB is like this to me. He always contradicting himself - a lot of times in the SAME 16. He complains about racism, but then suggests its black ppl fault. He supposed to be "conscious" but then says he don't believe in voting. His fans celebrate him for saying "pro-black" things, but He never says anything definitive. His fans celebrate his album as a "political" album but then his team tells reporters not to ask him political questions. Things dont match up with this cat.
Ummmmm it's pretty damnn obvious that he's talking to some character that sees Kendrick as a positive role model to black youth despite not really knowing his past :dwillhuh:
And the mashing part is clearly Kendrick trying to hastily hide his past dirty work with imagery that could double as him trying to hide his body, and the person jumping in the car to talk about Kendrick and black youth is who I described in the previous paragraph :dwillhuh:
And the next part is describing the condition these hypothetical boys with choppers that Kendrick isn't are in/are subjected to:dwillhuh:
Pretty damn basic stuff here:dwillhuh:
 

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This is why Kendrick gets hammered down :pachaha:

i don't even listen to kendrick, his themes and subject matter ruin the music for me. Im just being non biased. Kendrick showed more growth as an artist between 2 albums more than what Jayz and Nas showed in their careers combined, and these dudes are considered GOATS
 

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All Kendrick needs to do is switch his subject matter, music isn't a good medium for race talk. It was wack when Nas did it and its wack now.
 

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nikka, I have a masters degree in a field 90% of the Coli would fail in and am pursuing a professional degree.

Stop it

This is the problem with you dweebs and that includes Cole acolytes.

You love these artists because you're idiots yourselves. These artists are "deep" to you.

No. They're pretentious. Only dumbasses don't know how stupid they are and cling to these fake-deep artists. You all never had role models or educated people around you so you cling to them as if they're doing something profound.

So what if he drops a few socially progressive bars? So what if he hamfists some generic "come together world" bullshyt.

It sucks as music.

Its precisely why his attempt at creating another anthem with Beyonce on "Freedom" was and will be an utter flop.

No one I know (and thats Drs, PhD's, MD's, DDS, JD's etc) listens to that pretentious shyt. We know its entertainment so we treat it as such.

If we want education we're getting books, going to lectures, listening to podcasts, etc.

We're not listening to some high school level bullshyt from some rapper who claims to be some smartass know it all with a fraction of the wisdom of actual rap GOATS who grew up in the streets but know how to entertainingly push the same issues in way more creative ways.

So no, i'm not impressed with someone who raps with a college degree...because i'm not reading dissertations...i'm listening to music first and foremost and if it fails to entertain me, regardless of content, then its failed.


Please stop, cause most off your post, doesn't indicate this so-called intelligence you think you have.

Lol at a piece of paper being a sign off someone's intelligence.

You have no ounce of wisdom or any actual original thoughts.
 
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i don't even listen to kendrick, his themes and subject matter ruin the music for me. Im just being non biased. Kendrick showed more growth as an artist between 2 albums more than what Jayz and Nas showed in their careers combined, and these dudes are considered GOATS


Lies. Rapping over jazz and doing slam poetry isn't growth
 

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Please stop, cause most off your post, doesn't indicate this so-called intelligence you think you have.

Lol at a piece of paper being a sign off someone's intelligence.

You have no ounce of wisdom or any actual original thoughts.

Napoleon is being obnoxious, but it's equally obnoxious to call people dumb or simple minded for enjoying future over kendrick.

i dont speak for everyone, but At my grad school the hip hop heads listen to everything. They like social justice stuff so they listen to kendrick, but they arent pretentious about it and listen to everything else too. especially with people preoccupied with work and other hobbies, their #1 goal is entertainment.

Actually, the heads I know on that pretentious shyt who insist on wutang and talib kweli, are uptight jews.

surprised this has not been posted yet:

GZA: Throughout my whole history, I always choose to keep it vivid. Straight to the point. "Half short, twice strong" : that's my motto. That's the M.O. [Recites from "As High As Wu-Tang Get"] "Too many songs / Weak rhymes that's mad long / Make it brief, half short, twice strong." So I'm always a believer in writing in 24 bars and sayin' it in 16 bars, or eight bars. Keeping it visual, and just keepin' it strong.
 

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Napoleon is being obnoxious, but it's equally obnoxious to call people dumb or simple minded for enjoying future over kendrick.

i dont speak for everyone, but At my grad school the hip hop heads listen to everything. They like social justice stuff so they listen to kendrick, but they arent pretentious about it and listen to everything else too. especially with people preoccupied with work and other hobbies, their #1 goal is entertainment.

Actually, the heads I know on that pretentious shyt who insist on wutang and talib kweli, are uptight jews.

surprised this has not been posted yet:

I don't judge anyone's intelligence off what they listen to or don't listen to.

Music to me is just a feeling, you feel it or you don't.


But basing intelligence off a piece of paper is just beyond silly. And in honestly it reeks of a person with very little life experience.

Just my two cents
 
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