Now That Jimmy Del Ray Gone, who is going to man the ship? Official WWE RAW Slammies 12/8 Thread

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Let me stop you right there. I know many of Dean Ambrose's fanbase are women

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, nor does it negate anything so let me stop you right here.
Where did I say anything about Ambrose NOT having female fans?
He gets fanfare from IWC, casuals, children, & women. Consistently.
In six months, you won't be able to say the same for Reigns if they shotgun him to the title.


Ambrose and Seth's booking has been stronger. I think too may of you are thinking in terms of wins and losses. In wrestling that doesn't mean as much.

Stop.
Reigns defeated Rollins on a throwaway episode of RAW. CLEAN.
Ambrose jobbed to Rollins consecutively three or four times -
which his why you had to cover your statement and add your tidbit about win and losses not mattering with the booking at the end of your sentence.
I don't even care to list other instances disproving that lie.
Reigns has been booked superior to Rollins and Ambrose since the split.
He is without a doubt THE guy Vince wants to run with and it's been evident since the Shield disbanded.
You claim Rollins has benefited more, but in no shape form or fashion has Dean been booked superior to either of the two.
He's the same guy who had to work a Seth Rollins crash dummy promo.
That's not even up for debate.
 

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Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, nor does it negate anything so let me stop you right here.
Where did I say anything about Ambrose NOT having female fans?
He gets fanfare from IWC, casuals, children, & women. Consistently.
In six months, you won't be able to say the same for Reigns if they shotgun him to the title.




Stop.
Reigns defeated Rollins on a throwaway episode of RAW. CLEAN.
Ambrose jobbed to Rollins consecutively three or four times -
which his why you had to cover your statement and add your tidbit about win and losses not mattering with the booking at the end of your sentence.
I don't even care to list other instances disproving that lie.
Reigns has been booked superior to Rollins and Ambrose since the split.
He is without a doubt THE guy Vince wants to run with and it's been evident since the Shield disbanded.
You claim Rollins has benefited more, but in no shape form or fashion has Dean been booked superior to either of the two.
He's the same guy who had to work a Seth Rollins crash dummy promo.
That's not even up for debate.

No way, disagree with all of this. Dean doesn't have that many casual fans. It's mostly females and internet smarks. I don't think he has a superman push at all, I think you're thinking too much of "wins" and "losses" which don't mean as much in pro-wrestling. Seth's and Dean's booking has been much more solid in a way they are able to experiment more with their characters, work with different people and angles, and they didn't have an injury derailing them. Ambrose was on RAW EVERY single week while Roman has been out, been on RAW several times throughout an episode (it was OVERKILL..even got some silence from his segments even), Seth (besides that loss against Roman on RAW) hasn't had a clean loss nor win since turning Heel that I can't remember, both have been involved in interesting storylines and angles, etc.

I mean I could go on and on and on with how much their booking is better and that if Roman's getting the "superman push" then they are doing a piss poor job of it. It's up for debate because it's just your opinion, but what's being show is completely different. I think some of you guys are exaggerating at times about how much Roman has over many guys.
 

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Ambrose is more over than Reigns and reports show he sells much more merch. Also, Reigns hasn't showed anything of substance yet. Dude won superstar of the year despite only having ONE singles match on PPV while Lesnar broke the fukking streak and squashed Cena. It's embarrassing how the WWE is pushing him this hard without even waiting to see if the fans like him though.
 

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For the record, I don't like Ambrose either. I think he's overrated, gimmicky, corny, and tends to overact. I definitely don't think he should be in the ME of Mania but if he is I can stomach it because at least the fans organically chose him.
 

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7:57 PM - 8 Dec 2014

I saw he made a tweet too about Ambrose (he must've deleted it though) about somebody tweet him making a Stone Cold comparison and J.R. was like, "Nope."

Roman got these computers 'putin'.
 

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Dean's booking has been much more solid in a way they are able to experiment more with their characters, work with different people and angles, and they didn't have an injury derailing them. Ambrose was on RAW EVERY single week while Roman has been out, been on RAW several times throughout an episode (it was OVERKILL..even got some silence from his segments even)


Bull, and we can't discuss crowd reactions without addressing the fact that Vince had him doing promos with crash dummies.
We can't discuss crowd reactions when Ambrose has come out on the losing end of every major feud he's been apart of since the Shield disbanded, while Reigns went over Orton clean.
To not do so is disingenuous and you & I both know Reigns wouldn't be saddled dumb shyt like that because he's the companies new golden child.
You're being willfully dishonest if you say otherwise.
Agree to disagree.
 

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Ambrose is more over than Reigns and reports show he sells much more merch. Also, Reigns hasn't showed anything of substance yet. Dude won superstar of the year despite only having ONE singles match on PPV while Lesnar broke the fukking streak and squashed Cena. It's embarrassing how the WWE is pushing him this hard without even waiting to see if the fans like him though.
Not suprising...

Ambrose has a large female fanbase...maybe even larger than Reigns....and I think he fills the void that Punk left...
 
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