Now all da neckbeards can stop crying about WWE ruining Shinske

[NoMorePie]

Nakamura has had THE beat rookie year since Brock.

*Won da NXT title TWICE

*Went undefeated for 3 months on SD

*Pinned Cena clean

*Pinned Orton clean

*Tagged wit AJ multiple times

*Pinned Owens clean at least 4 times

*Co main evented MITB

*Co main evented Summerslam

*NOW wins the Royal Rumble eliminating Vince’s hand picked chosen one to main event Wrestlemania against AJ

Sheamus

 

[dh86]

The every shrinking audience says otherwise, if Vince actually gave a shyt about the WWE in 2018 (he doesn't, that's why he moved on to XFL because he's bored with play fighting), AJ/Nak would be a US or IC title match. You can't draw a dime with a guy who talks like he has bell's palsy


and AJ got smackdown putting tarp on 50% of the seats in arenas, he can't draw

Ratings jumped UP ,you mean, after AJ took the belt off the trasharaja

 

[Da King]

Ratings jumped UP ,you mean, after AJ took the belt off the trasharaja

quick to blame Jinder?

So he was trash for actually looking and presenting himself as a star? the WWE title is currently all time levels of meaningless, having 2 on 1's to open a Rumble


when the title used to mean something

 

[8WON6]

When you let the marks book your show

these not even house show numbers during the GOATsso era

People also tried to say this was because of Jinder. The reality is them WWE tickets go up and people would rather stay home for all kinds of events, including our beloved football. You have 4k TV's now, people are debating sitting in nosebleeds or sitting at home on a couch. I remember looking at those floor seat prices for an NXT house show and shaking my head. Even those tickets were kind of high.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

who said I watch the anything of the modern product? I tuned out around October 5th, 1999

Self-ether.

 

[smoove157]

the ticket sales are one thing, but they want to really make toys, shirts and video games and other shyt out of these guys.

thats the main thing, the licensing of their likeness for merch.

 

[Da King]

People also tried to say this was because of Jinder. The reality is them WWE tickets go up and people would rather stay home for all kinds of events, including our beloved football. You have 4k TV's now, people are debating sitting in nosebleeds or sitting at home on a couch. I remember looking at those floor seat prices for an NXT house show and shaking my head. Even those tickets were kind of high.

Ok, but that doesn’t explain drop in ratings when other cable shows like GOT are still setting records so the BS excuse that people just use DVR and watch from their cell phones is BS

the audience is a fraction of what it once was but revenue streams have increased 100x with all the licenses they have

If they had this product in the 90’s they would’ve went under

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

@Da King lets talk about Hunter and HBK being racists.

 

[8WON6]

Ok, but that doesn’t explain drop in ratings when other cable shows like GOT are still setting records so the BS excuse that people just use DVR and watch from their cell phones is BS

the audience is a fraction of what it once was but revenue streams have increased 100x with all the licenses they have

If they had this product in the 90’s they would’ve went under

We have internet and all kinds of hulu/Netflix subscription based programming. People just have way more options now. We can't compare wrestling to popular tv shows. That's just two different levels of entertainment. Wrestling had a boom period when they didn't have to compete with a network like AMC having a Walking Dead or Breaking bad. There's just a crazy amount of competition compared to the late 90's.

 

[R=G]

We have internet and all kinds of hulu/Netflix subscription based programming. People just have way more options now. We can't compare wrestling to popular tv shows. That's just two different levels of entertainment. Wrestling had a boom period when they didn't have to compete with a network like AMC having a Walking Dead or Breaking bad. There's just a crazy amount of competition compared to the late 90's.

Hold up..wrestling went against Monday night football.

 

[8WON6]

Hold up..wrestling went against Monday night football.

Monday Night Football - MNF ratings through the years
and

The highest rating to date that "Raw" has ever had was on September 27, 1999, in an episode that featured a 25-minute-long "This Is Your Life" segment with Mankind and The Rock. The segment received an 8.4 rating.

1998
9/14- 4.0 to 12.7 for 49ers/Redskins
9/21- 4.0 to 13.1 for Cowboys/Giants
9/28- 4.5 to 11.1 for Buccaneers/Lions
10/5- 4.5 to 16.8 for Vikings/Packers (Battle of 4-0 teams)
10/12- 4.8 to 11.7 for Dolphins/Jaguars (3-1 vs. 4-0)
10/19- 5.0 to 14.6 for Jets/Patriots
10/26- 4.5 to 14.5 for Steelers/Chiefs (Battle of 4-2 teams)
11/2- 4.8 to 13.2 for Cowboys/Eagles (34-0 rout)
11/9- 5.0 to 15.6 for Packers/Steelers
11/16- 5.5 to 13.9 for Broncos/Chiefs
11/23- 4.9 to 15.1 for Dolphins/Patriots
11/30- 5.0 to 14 for Giants/49ers (31-7 rout)
12/7- 5.2 to 15.4 for Packers/Buccaneers
12/14- 5.2 to 11.9 for Lions/49ers (35-13)
12/21- 4.7 to 16.3 for Broncos/Dolphins
12/28- 4.9 to 11.5 for Steelers/Jaguars

1999
9/13- 6.0 to 16.1 for Dolphins/Broncos
9/20- 6.1 to 15.2 for Falcons/Cowboys
9/27- 6.8 (Rock, This Is Your Life) to 13.3 for 49ers/Cardinals
10/4- 5.9 to 14 for Bills/Dolphins
10/11- 6.5 to 10.4 for Jagaurs/Jets
10/18- 5.4 to 12.1 for Cowboys/Giants
10/25- 5.5 to 12.5 for Falcons/Steelers
11/1- 5.9 to 14.9 for Seahawks/Packers (Battle of 4-2 teams, Holmgren returns to Lambeau)
11/8- 5.4 to 16.2 for Cowboys/Vikings
11/15- 6.3 to 13.4 for Jets/Patriots
11/22- 5.5 to 13 for Raiders/Broncos
11/29- 6.5 (RAW is LOVE) vs. 13.1 for Packers/49ers (Battle of underachieving NFC 90s powers in decline)
12/6- 6.0 to 14.3 for Vikings/Buccaneers
12/13- 6.1 to 13.3 for Broncos/Jaguars (McMahon-Helmsley era begins
12/20- 5.8 to 15.1 for Packers/Vikings
12/27- 5.8 to 14.4 for Jets/Dolphins (Dan Marino's final home game)
1/3/2000- 6.5 to 10 for 49ers/Falcons (Battle of 4-11 underachieving teams who fell off after big 1998 seasons)

RAW vs Football ratings numbers. What point are you making? Now, in 2018 you're not just competing with Football, you're competing with all kinds of different tv and internet programming. This is simple shyt. Even in the WWE's highest rated raw, a wack ass niners/cardinals game got better ratings. And in 1999 it was worth it to go to the show because you pretty much only got to see it at the show or live on tv, unless you tried to tape it... wasn't no on-demand then. You really was prioritizing seeing stuff when it happened live because that might have been your only chance to see it. And you're most likely picking between a 480p tube tv and live. Now you're picking between a 4k flat screen and a nose bleed seat. Or you're picking between I watching it later online vs live. It's not hard to figure out that people are staying home for shyt nowadays.

 

[R=G]

Monday Night Football - MNF ratings through the years
and





RAW vs Football ratings numbers. What point are you making? Now, in 2018 you're not just competing with Football, you're competing with all kinds of different tv and internet programming. This is simple shyt. Even in the WWE's highest rated raw, a wack ass niners/cardinals game got better ratings. And in 1999 it was worth it to go to the show because you pretty much only got to see it at the show or live, unless you tried to tape it wasn't no on demand then. You really was prioritizing seeing stuff when it happened live because that might have been your only chance to see it. And you're most likely picking between a 480p tube tv and live. Now you're picking between a 4k flat screen and a nose bleed seat. Or you're picking between I watching it later online vs live. It's not hard to figure out that people are staying home for shyt nowadays.

Cable Tv ratings in the heyday? Football or not, nothing was bigger than wrestling.

 

[Da King]

Monday Night Football - MNF ratings through the years
and





RAW vs Football ratings numbers. What point are you making? Now, in 2018 you're not just competing with Football, you're competing with all kinds of different tv and internet programming. This is simple shyt. Even in the WWE's highest rated raw, a wack ass niners/cardinals game got better ratings. And in 1999 it was worth it to go to the show because you pretty much only got to see it at the show or live on tv, unless you tried to tape it... wasn't no on-demand then. You really was prioritizing seeing stuff when it happened live because that might have been your only chance to see it. And you're most likely picking between a 480p tube tv and live. Now you're picking between a 4k flat screen and a nose bleed seat. Or you're picking between I watching it later online vs live. It's not hard to figure out that people are staying home for shyt nowadays.

Why have MNF ratings not tanked at the same rate as RAW when they’re dealing with the same increasing competition?

Product is trash and people moved on, the hardcore fans remained and it’s now currently a niche product where you have grown ass me paying $800+to watch a free televised cable show because they’re such a mark for the product. All those idiots at the Manhattan Center chanting bullshyt are all going to watch the show tonight like the marks they are

 

[Kid Kash]

Until Nakamura loses the title on the Post-WrestleMania Smackdown! to Kane, who just returned to SmackDown.

Because we all know how this company is.

Fixed that for you

 

[MushroomX]

Fixed that for you

I would have placed Kane, but he is running for Mayor of a town, so he stands a good chance of winning.