"Not everybody digs. The people that care about Hip-Hop dig for it."- Feefo from DEHH

[Monsanto]

Wayne inspired all types of rappers though

Not all are xanax, lean drinking fiends. So does he get credit for the Kendricks, Coles & Wales

You can't be serious. I am specifically talking about the xanax, lean mainstream.

The difference between those guys and guys like Future is they all have a formula that doesn't rely on reciting the formula of their predecessors.

Future and mumble rappers repeat the same shyt. You know exactly what you are getting from them before the album drops. Do these guys know what a concept album is?

Don't answer that.

 

[Uitomy]

I like digging it's how I found machinedrum
Shigeto
Lucci Wally
Raz fresco
Bishop Nehru
Swimming tv

Like that's the thing about digging, when you find good music your ass will be stuck on it and you gotta be friends with people who listen to dope shyt cause they'll share with you too

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Nah stop going after the lowest hanging fruit.

What we mean is after we go through the Wale, Earl Sweatshirt and Logic we have to go wading through the underground and mixtape rappers to find proper gems.

It's the same in most industries, not rap alone.



Lazy argument, you don't have to be in the rap game to critique just like you don't have to be in it to appreciate the music.

 

[ThisWorldAintRight]

I see his point. I've found out about a shyt ton of dope artists on Spotify so shyt's been good to me lately.

 

[Sauce Dab]

I like digging it's how I found machinedrum
Shigeto
Lucci Wally
Raz fresco
Bishop Nehru
Swimming tv

Like that's the thing about digging, when you find good music your ass will be stuck on it and you gotta be friends with people who listen to dope shyt cause they'll share with you too

that's the thing. A lot of coli dudes don't have friends

 

[prophecypro]

I feel like a lot of people in the 90s and 00s experienced music by basically listening to their big brother or homie's shyt. Now they're grown and don't have someone to ape off and are like "awwww hip hop is dead." Man there's so much dope shyt out there. I don't remember the last time I felt there weren't multiple good to great rap albums out in a year. Do you have to do some "digging"? I guess yea. But you can stumble across a lot of dope shyt by simply expanding beyond the typical shyt that is posted everywhere on the internet. Drake/Kendrick/Cole/Chance/Future/etc gonna be posted everywhere and trend on twitter. But just glancing at some forums or even watching DEHH reviews will introduce you to some interesting shyt beyond the big names.

Right.
If you were used to your big brother or classmates putting you on or tuning to the local hip hop show on your radio or BET/MTV or reading the source or xxl you saw the dope shyt
But now those same people dont check those magazines, those radio shows have either disappeared or only play daytime playlists and those people have grown up and dont have time to dig

But its like all you needed to do in the mid 00s when the Hip Hop is Dead conversation was at its peak was go to nahright and 2dopeboyz and see dudes like KRIT, Cole, Kendrick come up dudes like Charles Hamilton, BoB, Cudi and Khalifa when they were still pure hip hop, Freddie Gibbs, Joey Badass. Action Bronson. Mayhem Lauren. Pac Div. Cool Kids. Kids in the hall and see they were plenty of dudes making music from the era they love.
DEHH talks about a lot of dope shyt that doesnt get the attention

 

[Murkman]

And then if you look at the current xanax popping, lean drinking mainstream of today they are all influenced by him

Bro, I don't even stan Wayne but that is some bullshyt, flat out. Correlate partaking in cultural festivities as an adult, and then use the kids to blame that person's behavior, like this doesn't happen everywhere else in Rap.


Also, UGK got motherfukkers on lean thanks to Pimp C, not Wayne.
As for Xanax, isn't that more of a rave drug popularized by rappers like Em?
The whole South was on that lean shyt way before Wayne even blew up around 2002, he can be held responsible for why there's an overabundance of mixtape rappers, but that's really it.

@Rose Gold
All the main emcees (massive variety btw) popping in the Mainstream right now (respected in Hip-Hop), were influenced by Wayne's mixtape strategy to get signed.
In his prime, he was a juggernaut in his rapping, many different Rap styles, is why emcees go out their way to remix and totally renegade the original, unpredictable beat selections, quotable lines for years, etc.
If you gonna mention the bad, which he has very little hand in regardless, you might as well mention the good. Wayne like most emcees sucks as a songwriter anyways, so his pros don't even have to do with what Kanye and Drake are known for.

Technically, if you want to be accurate scold Kanye for this generation with that 808's T-Pain rip-off fukkery, which in 2008 Wayne and countless other rappers adapted to survive for relevance. As far as Rap goes, Wayne and these one-hit wonders rap nothing alike on occasion from a few punchline cliches. They remind me more of Lil' Jon and Missy than Wayne.

A nikka featured on an Outkast song who still raps like he did in the 00's, isn't 100% responsible for these new nikkas who barely rap like it was 2010. Hell, in 2012-now Future is even more worthy to for these "Wall-E Emo Rap" fukktards, at least Wayne has great enunciation most of the time. You can't section out one rapper who hopped on the bandwagons like everyone else to maintain notoriety - on why Rap declined on certain trends.

Otherwise, you might as well just skip that Rap wouldn't have changed much without him, we would still be stuck with what we have today.

Actually, since Wayne's career was still in the late 90's/00's emcee era, you should be putting more blame on Drake AND Kanye. Because they revitalized that "Sing like a nikka who never had balls, but rap like Cudi" wave that's been oversaturated this entire decade thus far.

But if you want to blame why so many nikkas are constantly doing "Bar filled albums/mixtapes", that's Wayne's lane. Which happens to be the same one you nikkas never give him some positive credit for - the site constantly updates everyone on the latest buzzing mixtapes from your favorite rappers.

 

[Murkman]

You know exactly what you are getting from them before the album drops

Given Kendrick is on Aftermath, I am not surprised that a Pac-shrine album like TPAB was gonna be made. All his main projects were full of clues and hints of Pac homages. He is a gateway also to extensive West Coast Hip-Hop history, to nikkas and casual fans who basically never heard of Pac, N.W.A., Snoop, etc. and pretended to.
His stans are the dumbest currently atm, I can tell they never ventured in West Coast Rap before him. They make my region by large be renowned as some "Hipster Cac Mecca" capital. Most of them are late Dre, 50 Cent, Pac and Eminem stans, go figure.

Cole been making imperfect cloned projects since his debut, barely has changed his rappig style or sound. nikka should have a Doctorate in Sleep studies by now.

Wale is just MMG's tax write off, epitome of a waste of potential that never truly "blew up" and complains on social media all day on why he's underrated. He bases his whole career on Seinfeld, enough said.

If you know a rapper well in this decade, a vast majority of them are predictable and not game changing. Compare them to the previous decade, which had way more creativity and influenced them to somehow slack off and not be original.

 

[Murkman]

@FappleMeOff
To answer your question, every major Rap artist now who used mixtapes to launch their careers either directly, or indirectly thanks him for inspiration. Everyone from Fabolous, to Chance, to Kendrick to KRIT to Joey to Cole, etc. ALL at one point paid homage, shouted him out, use the same formula he did, etc. I can't even trace how much he influenced Trap, since Gucci, Tip, Jeezy, etc. been had that lane on lock.

Drake and Kanye are the main reasons why Rap fukked up the way is it currently. For this "New ATL" shyt that has been taking over that's all on Waka, Gucci and Future.
Wayne dabbled in that for maybe 2-3 years at most, and that was when he wasn't getting as much attention as the next generation of Mainstream emcees anyways, so that's just a lazy generalization.

shyt, GFK objectively started that "Stream of consciousness" nonsense in the first place. Rappers been going off topic more than ever since then, it's a natural evolution.

That's coming from somebody like me who still has him in a Top 10 GOAT List.

 

[Urbanmiracle]

To his point if you do "dig" by which i think he meant turn off the radio and try going to these open mic showcases, checking SoundCloud datpiff and these underground blogs you can find a lot of unheard, up and coming talented artist. When I had my radio show I was flooded with talent from all over the country that you probably never heard of that were dope. It's a famine if you just looking at mainstream stuff but as a whole, there is PLENTY of good music.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

It's funny how nikkas will say you shouldn't have to dig but can't even provide a link to good music


Be in threads talking about but will then turn around and say "this new music is trash"


Everyone else just wants to complain or is too lazy or dumb to find good music and can't admit it

 

[Deoji]

We shouldn't have to dig for good music, though. You should have to dig for garbage...this shyt is backwards

post internet theory.

we used to always dig, bruh. through crates, boxes of tapes etc

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Nah stop going after the lowest hanging fruit.

What we mean is after we go through the Wale, Earl Sweatshirt and Logic we have to go wading through the underground and mixtape rappers to find proper gems.

It's the same in most industries, not rap alone.



Lazy argument, you don't have to be in the rap game to critique just like you don't have to be in it to appreciate the music.

So my question to you is, what was/is your main source for finding good music?