@KnickstapeCity never stamped him
“Nobody feared LeBron. I’ve heard people say including myself that they feared Michael Jeffrey Jordan” Shaq
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The east where every year there was 1-2 teams with losing records making the playoffs?The East where teams missing the playoffs in the West would've been top 6 in the East?
Who the fukk cares who was #7-#8 in the conference? Were they going to be a title contender either way? Why are you Kobestans always focused on the last-place teams who are destined to lose in the first round regardless of record?
If records matter, then the record of the BEST opponent in the conference is what matters, not the worst. No question you're gonna juelz away from bringing that up though, cause we know who loses that argument.
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Other than media biased MVP voting for Lebron in the 2000s, what was he dominating? Kobe and Duncan were winning all the chips.
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So why did he leave the Cavs again after they built a competitive team according to his specifications? Looks to me like Lebron runs when things get a little roughI'm not in his mind, but he's from Ohio originally and seemed to still have a nostalgic desire to win one for Cleveland.
After Bron went to Miami, Cleveland also finally got four years of high draft picks in a row, which allowed them to build the team. That had literally been impossible so long as Bron was on the team and they were picking at the end every year. Chicago built through the draft by having 8 top-18 picks in Jordan's first five seasons, including 6 top-11 picks. Cleveland had never been able to do that because they only had one top-18 pick in Bron's entire tenure and immediately wasted it (Luke Jackson at #10). So by leaving the team, Bron allowed it to build into a competitive squad in a way that would never have been possible while he was there.
Exactly nikkas had Paul Milsap winning 60 games. The eastern conference been a joke for more than a decade even before LeBron came to.He and an entire conference in a chokehold?A conference where teams with 35 wins were making the playoffs
This man Kobe was beating Duncan and Spurs… Prime Carmelo Billups Martin in Denver Tmac Yao Metta World Peace beat Celtics team by himself who made LeBron run to Miami Prime Nash and Suns I mean I can go on.Kobe beat more 50 win teams in the playoffs than anybody but act like he didn’t deny anybody brehs
Who did LeBron ever beat especially when on the Cavs. This man had to run to Miami to a guy who already won a championship.
Ah nah dont say that! They're gonna tell you Pau Gasol was the real MVP despite going 7-13 from the FT line in Game 7, including 5-9 in the 4th qtr (1-4 in the last 7 minutes). Or going 6-14 with only 17 pts in an elimination G6. Or MWP hitting the "game winning shot" in G7 even though we were already winning after Kobe put us up by 3
Such an underrated Kobe playoff game
He literally stopped the Spurs from repeating on two different occasions yet he never denied anyone
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Frankly this is why no one respects Shaq and why Kobe and other players keep surpassing him in the imagination and thoughts of younger fans. He talks like a clown, he acts like a clown, and he disrespects the game. He disrespected the game as a player when he didn't have the decency to prepare in the offseason and get into shape. He disrespected the game as a commentator, ruining the chemistry of the TNT crew and ushering in an era of bitterness and small mindedness that lasts to this day. He has destroyed his reputation, just as he destroyed his family by shrinking from the higher calling to be a better teammate, man, and husband.
There will always be debate on Bron and his placement in history but one thing should never be questioned: he was feared in this league. We watched that man rip the soul out of Toronto every year, throw his weight around against the Bulls, topple the Celtics...all while they tried everything to stop him. Come on. Go listen to what they said after the games. Only a casual or a hater would deny this.
There will always be debate on Bron and his placement in history but one thing should never be questioned: he was feared in this league. We watched that man rip the soul out of Toronto every year, throw his weight around against the Bulls, topple the Celtics...all while they tried everything to stop him. Come on. Go listen to what they said after the games. Only a casual or a hater would deny this.
2004 Playoffs the Spurs are trying to repeat, and they start their series against the Lakers 2-0. In Game 3 both Shaq and Kobe come out firing and get the must win.
Game 4, Spurs are trying to up 3-1 and are up 10 on us at halftime. Shaq/Kobe do damage in the 3rd and then in the 4th.....
15 pts in the 4th while Shaq had 2 and TD had 5. 42 pts overall in a MUST WIN GAME vs the defending champs, best PF ever.
Game 5, Series is tied 2-2, important road game to take HCA away from SA. Defensive struggle all around but Kobe manages to muster out 22 pts with 0 FT attempts while Shaq only has 11. Kobe hits big shot with 11 seconds left to put us up, the TD answers back in legendary fashion. D Fish hits the 0.4 shot when they double Kobe off the inbound pass
LAkers go on to win Game 6 with Kobe scoring 12 in the 4th to put the Spurs away
But Kobe never denied nobody
Game 4, Spurs are trying to up 3-1 and are up 10 on us at halftime. Shaq/Kobe do damage in the 3rd and then in the 4th.....
15 pts in the 4th while Shaq had 2 and TD had 5. 42 pts overall in a MUST WIN GAME vs the defending champs, best PF ever.
Game 5, Series is tied 2-2, important road game to take HCA away from SA. Defensive struggle all around but Kobe manages to muster out 22 pts with 0 FT attempts while Shaq only has 11. Kobe hits big shot with 11 seconds left to put us up, the TD answers back in legendary fashion. D Fish hits the 0.4 shot when they double Kobe off the inbound pass
LAkers go on to win Game 6 with Kobe scoring 12 in the 4th to put the Spurs away
But Kobe never denied nobody
They already told you why.
They feel like LeBron was "inorganically pushed" as Jordan's successor and that any assertion that he's in the GOAT debate with Jordan is "wiping away Kobe's legacy".
This has been the case for 2 decades.
Cavs had the 2nd best team in the NBA in 2017, then the ownership got rid of their highly regarded GM to save money when he was trying to put together trades to save the team, refused to trade for a veteran in the offseason even though Paul George and Jimmy Butler were both available, then traded Kyrie away for a draft pick and an injured player who both amounted to nothing. How could you claim the 2018 Cavs were "built according to his specifications" in any way?
I'm not a mind reader, but most people said he left for LA cause his family (especially wife) didn't want to leave in Cleveland anymore and it was easier for him to run his hollywood/business deals from Los Angeles. Seems pretty unlikely that he did it because he thought joining forces with Kyle Kuzma and Lonzo Ball would give him an easy path to a title lol.
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...on the otherside of the pond
I’m still not getting it. The failed to build around KD situation is no different than Bron’s first rodeo in Cleveland.
I don’t get it .
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He went to the Lakers cause he knew AD was coming through Klutch and thought Kwahi was coming, why are you so disingenuous breh. Lebron did it all in the open so no need to try to rewrite history.
Lebron doesn’t inspire or influence a generation of basketball players like MJ, Kobe or Steph cause of the way he moves and manipulate the game for his own gain
Probably one of the only accurate things you've said on this boardthis whole NBA "fear" shyt has become so corny
