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I believe him
But if there are ships the size of football fields that have crashed, how can that go unnoticed?
Or how else did the government get a hold of them?
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I don’t think those have crashed, and if they did it was in a very remote area like Antarctica or something.
In fact, rumors are thats where the Nazi scientist ran too after the war and that the US sent a fleet down there to finish them but got ran off by UFO’s… but I think that rumor is veering off into science fiction
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There's been too much shyt going on for a long time
And there are videos of unidentified objects
We have ppl on record saying that they disabled nukes
And I a hundred percent believe they do not come in piece
I'm definitely starting to believe Roswell was true
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Disabling nukes isn’t a big deal imo.
They did that to prevent them from destroying the planet (I actually think they do it to test and see if they can).
There has been a lot going on behind an iron curtain though. I think the world is about as prepared as they ever will be, because it’s not like shyt getting any better out here
Again also, people need to understand that Grusch was referencing more than one race. I think we in the states see the “Greys” so much because of the supposed deal one of the presidents reportedly made with them. Apparently he met 2 separate races and turned down the deal for some positive shyt, and took the deal with the greys to allow them access to the American people in exchange for technology.. except they barely know what to do with the technology because the clearances isolates them from the scientific community.
Grusch said that there have been battles though so, the theory is that some of those NHI (Greys) reneged on their end of the bargain
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Now the kids were coached when they were told not to say nothing at all by their own teacher (and didn’t listen because they’re kids).. who was also interviewed as saying she didn’t believe them and apologized years later (it was in the documentary)..
But you’ll believe 30 children were coached into saying that there were aliens… are they still coached today?
No. I believe they were 'coached' by the interviewers after the fact as indicated here...
Did you read the article or no? These links are even better, especially detailed with the timeline and specifics of initial events.
1. The reentry of the Zenit-2 rocket two nights before had created a light show over Africa, leading to hundreds of claimed UFO sightings across the country that everyone was talking about, including children. The 4th-grade class at Arial School specifically had a class discussion about UFOs the same week the sighting occurred. Several children reported a different UFO sighting the day before the main event, with a complete different-looking craft.
2. Some children during recess reported seeing an alien running around in the trees, with a UFO. The trees in question were at least 700 feet beyond the school boundary which was the furthest the children were allowed to go. Most children out at recess said they had seen nothing.
3. The intial interviewer, Cynthia Hind, was a UFO enthusiast who interviewed the children in groups (something you never do with eyewitnesses especially children, because it leads them to latch onto the other stories in their group) and almost certainly planted the ideas in their head.
4. Even with the group interviews, only a fraction of the children reported seeing something, while most children said nothing happened and no adults saw it. It's difficult to determine the exact number of actual eyewitnesses, but there are ~30 out of 250 children who have an interview statement attached to a name, and some of those 30 didn't see a UFO. 62 of the children made a drawing of the events, but many of the drawings are clearly copied from each other and no one spoke to these children to ask how many actually saw the thing and how many were just completing the assignmnet by copying.
5. Some children reported one man, some reported 2, some reported up to four. Some described him as a normal Black man but with long straight hair, while others reported one or more little gray aliens fitting the conventional description but wearing Black clothes. A few reported blank faces with no features. The descriptions fit into wildly different categories.
It seems almost definitive that the original sighting was of a long-haired mixed-race man, perhaps someone who looked slightly odd and thus surprised the white kids, and then the alien descriptors were added afterwards due to mass hysteria. They fit into basically three main categories, likely of kids who were copying each other's stories:
Remember that these sightings are occurring at 700+ feet away:
Notice that numerous children, in both the descriptions and the drawings, ONLY see a black man. They didn't see a UFO at all.
6. The second interviewer, UFO enthusiast John Mack, came 2.5 months later. Suddenly now the kids reported telepathic messages they had not reported before. Suddenly now the kids reported pro-environment messages they had not reported before. Does it surprise you that John Mack is a noted environmental activist who claims to recover hundreds of UFO sightings and abductions?
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Bruh, just roll on
These kids are fukking grown now and still saying the same shyt
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Bruh, just roll on
I would if there were evidence.
There isn't.
There isn't.
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How about them being adults and sticking by their “coached” story… is that enough evidence?I would if there were evidence.
There isn't.
Or how about some of the teachers that came out now who saw it and say they were threatened back then to keep quiet, is that enough proof?
What about the girls and people in Brazil who saw one walking around the town and the police that captured him.. they were coached too, right?
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No.
No.
No....
Brazil's Roswell: The Varginha UFO
This story of alien visitation in Brazil from 1996 claims to be the most convincing proof we have.
skeptoid.com
Here's a Brazilian newspaper's take....
memoria.ebc.com.br
ET de Varginha ainda instiga imaginário brasileiro 20 anos depois
Brasileiros passaram a usar a web para conhecer detalhes do “ET de Varginha". Conheça a história em detalhes relatada por moradores e ufólogos, debates sobre o imaginário da figura do ET, como a internet facilitou o acesso público a informações de ovnis no Brasil produzido pelas Forças Armadas...
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Bruh, just roll on
These kids are fukking grown now and still saying the same shyt
Breh, that's exactly how suggestion and false memories work. If you're convinced you saw something as a kid, you'll still believe it as an adult.
Did you read the links where the descriptions and stories dramatically change between their initial drawings/descriptions the first couple days afterwards and what they were saying after 3 months of being bombarded with UFO believers and group sessions?
Read through this thread carefully, and look at the dramatic difference between the initial stories (looked like regular people, only one "spacecraft" that was sitting on the ground with a person standing on top of it, too far away to really see anything, zero communication from the aliens) and the final stories months later (looked like typical gray aliens, a whole fleet of flying saucers, close enough for elaborate detail of facial features, telepathic messages about peace and environmentalism).
And this PhD cognitive psychologist explains how false memories work in kids:
Rencontre rapprochée à Ariel School, Ruwa, Zimbabwe 1994 ? Quelques Contre-Tons...
Ce billet est une synthèse d'un travail collectif commencé en 2010/2011. Il n'aurait pas été rendu possible sans les analyses de certains ...
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Same shyt happened with the Satanic Cult Panic of the 1980s.
Satanic panic - Wikipedia
Remembering Childhood Trauma That Never Happened
Memory is incredibly malleable – which means that it’s not that difficult to falsely convince someone they experienced something horrific.
www.thecut.com
Chris French: False memories of sexual abuse
Chris French: The tragedy of families torn apart by 'recovered' memories of abuse is ongoing
www.theguardian.com
There are numerous scientific studies that show if you get children to imagine an event as if it occurred, you can start convincing them to move their thoughts from "imagination" to "memory", and they'll begin to start beliving it really occured.
Imagination Inflation: Imagining a Childhood Event Inflates Confidence that it Occurred
Psychological research showing imagining childhood events can affect memory for those events
staff.washington.edu
What's your explanation for why the stories they repeat much later are so dramatically different from the stories they said at the time?
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He also testified to Congress under oath for 11 hours.
Congress has not been told any of this
Congress has not been told any of this
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Foreal bruh, just stop quoting me.No.
No.
No....
Brazil's Roswell: The Varginha UFO
This story of alien visitation in Brazil from 1996 claims to be the most convincing proof we have.skeptoid.com
Here's a Brazilian newspaper's take....
ET de Varginha ainda instiga imaginário brasileiro 20 anos depois
Brasileiros passaram a usar a web para conhecer detalhes do “ET de Varginha". Conheça a história em detalhes relatada por moradores e ufólogos, debates sobre o imaginário da figura do ET, como a internet facilitou o acesso público a informações de ovnis no Brasil produzido pelas Forças Armadas...
You literally sent me a link to people trying to discredit what these kids actually saw.. again
I watched the documentary, I saw them as adults. I saw the mother describe the smell, I saw the driver of the vehicle tell what he picked up and saw, but you send me an article of what someone who WASNT THERE thought those people saw.
Believe what you want. And @Rhakim , I did read your long winded response. I just didn’t say anything because I think you’re cool, and I’m not going to go into an essay battle with you on what people who wasn’t there THINK these people saw.
There are people that try to do these Debunks for a living, and you would believe them than the people who have zero reason to lie… thats your business. Who cares
60 kids lied… good to know.
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Told what?He also testified to Congress under oath for 11 hours.
Congress has not been told any of this
I’m sure he told them much more than he said in the interview because they do have a high enough clearance to hear a some things, just not everything and he wants them to pressure whoever is over these above black level projects
60+ kids who grew up into adults, that sought zero fame or financial gain, saw this shyt in person and nikkas still think they made the shyt up.
The "60+ kids" is one of many false claims from the UFO enthusiasts who promoted the story. Only 30 kids were named to have reported aliens, and not all of them saw things that could clearly be described as "aliens". That's out of 250 kids who were out at recess at the time. The 62 kids number comes from the number of drawings that were made, but kids were asked to make a drawing regardless and many of them just copied each other.
I don't think they "made shyt up". The actual progression of events looks pretty clear at this point.
1. There was a giant UFO craze going across the country after a documented rocket reentry caused a major nighttime light show over Africa (with no news stations reporting on the rocket as the actual cause). It has been proven that the kids at the school talked about UFOs in class earlier that week and even had come up with a completely different UFO sighting the day before, contradicting the UFO interviewers' claims that these children were poor rural kids unfamiliar with UFOs. In reality they were mostly rich white kids and had all seen UFOs on TV before.
2. Some kids, at recess, saw something sitting in the grass over 700 feet away. That distance has been clearly documented. Think about it - that's over 2 lengths of a football field. What details can you make out at that distance? How accurate are a kid's impressions of something that far away, especially when they're excited and only see it briefly?
3. In the intial stories, most of the kids reported seeing a Black man, often a Black man with long hair. Many of them said he had large black eyes low-set on his head. Remember that these descriptions are from OVER SEVEN HUNDRED feet away. Many of their initial drawings match this description.
Now, do you know whose group happened to be performing a concert near Harare at that time? Thomas Mapfuno. Black man, long hair, big black eyes?
Ariel Case, Zimbabwe (1994): A neglected Hypothesis or disregarded Assumption... (In French).
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skepticversustheflyingsaucers.blogspot.com
That doesn't mean Thomas Mapfuno himself was near the school. It could have been any rastafarian roadies or fans who were traveling to or from the area. Dreadlocks weren't common in Zimbabwae in 1994, but the subculture did exist and was having an event very close to the town at the same time this was happening. At 700+ feet away, how much could the kids see?
Please, look at those pictures and tell me they don't look WAY more like a Rastafarian than like an alien. The kids didn't "make up" what they saw. They just saw something innocent, some of them misinterpreted it due to the craze that was going on at the time, and then overexcited UFO enthusiasts coached them into making it something way different.