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u/SignalsIntelligence • Jun 14 '21
Believing Bob Lazar - Part One - Educational Background
August 1976 - Graduates High School:
According to Stanton Friedman, RL graduated from W. Tresper Clarke High School in Westbury Long Island, New York. His class standing was number 261 out of a class of 369. Further, according to Friedman, this would put RL in the bottom third of his class and entry into Cal Tech or MIT generally requires the student be in the top 10% of the class.
1976: Claims to have attended Los Angeles Pierce College.
This has been confirmed by Stanton Friedman. After RL stated that one of his professors at Cal Tech was named “Duxler”, Friedman located a William Duxler, a Math and Physics professor at Pierce College, who was able to determine that RL had taken at least one of his courses in the late 1970’s. Duxler said he never taught at Cal Tech.
For those who are curious, here is the video of Lazar claiming that he had a professor Duxler at Cal Tech, and a professor Hohsfield at MIT. There is no Hohsfield at MIT, but there was one at Lazar’s high school that was a Technical and Vocational teacher there teaching electronics.
A commenter from Quora on experience of being a graduate student at MIT:
When you attend a university as a graduate student, you leave many artifacts of your time there. You have an office. Someone from your department has to assign you that office. In his capacity, he would have worked in a lab, on many nights slept in that lab, like one of my roommates did who was a postdoc at MIT. You have cohort-mates. You have a dean. You have a thesis or dissertation advisor. You have mentors. You have a student ID. You use the library, and get to know librarians and security guards. You teach—depending on the institution on your own or under a professor as a TA—so you have students. You might play intramural sports or join other clubs. You have friends. I can go on.
Then there's research and publishing. He would have co-written academic papers. I think all of this is magnified at a place like MIT. These places attract the best lecturers and professors. And students, which Lazar was not. Your memories are very bright because the experiences are unforgettable. MIT labs are interesting places, with cutting edge research and development. Lazar would have rubbed elbows with a lot of very well known people.
1978 - Degree from Pacifica University:
Lazar claims a Bachelor of Science degree in Physics and Electronic Technology, from Pacifica University (correspondence university), according to RL’s Pre-Sentence Report for his pandering conviction (Case 94922). Pacifica was shut down in 1978 by the State of California for selling degrees.
“1977 or 78” - Attends Cal State Northridge:
Claims to have attended Cal State University, Northridge, “for a short time for some classes”, then on to CalTech. (14)
“The Big T” is the student yearbook for CalTech. At the Millikan Library at CalTech, every page of every issue of “The Big T” from the year 1977 through 1982 was checked. There is no photo or mention of RL anywhere in any of the activities, highly improbable were he a student there. Checking by George Knapp (1) and Stanton Friedman with the administration revealed no records of RL’s attendance.
July 27, 1980 - Marries Carol Strong:
RL married Carol Nadine Strong in Woodland Hills, California.
The certificate list’s RL’s occupation as “Electronics Engineer” and his highest school grade completed as 12.
1982 - Graduates with Masters Degree from Cal Tech:
At the Millikan Library at CalTech, every page of every issue of “The Big T” from the year 1977 through 1982 was checked. There is no photo or mention of RL anywhere in any of the activities, highly improbable were he a student there. Checking by George Knapp (1) and Stanton Friedman with the administration revealed no records of RL’s attendance.
1985 - Graduates with Masters Degree from MIT.
Glenn Campbell checked the following sources at the Institute Archives at MIT (See reference 14): Student directories between 1978 and 1990, Faculty/Staff phone directories between 1978 and 1990, MIT Degree List between 1979 and 1980, and the 1989 MIT Alumni/ae Register. There was no listing of RL in any of these documents. (16) Stanton Friedman has also checked with the MIT Registrar’s office and the Alumni office and has found no evidence of attendance. Friedman reports RL is not on the 1982 commencement list.
Friedman adds this:
The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.
This constitutes all of Bob’s claimed educational background. No classmates, students, professors, or anyone else associated with MIT or CalTech have come forward to say they knew or studied with Lazar. Lazar has never been able to name a single professor, student, or anyone else associated with these universities who might know him. On the one occasion that he did - linked above - the names that he gave were teachers at his High School and Pierce College.
George Knapp on Lazar’s education claims:
The information about his educational background was in the very first story that aired… I will confide to you this, I don’t believe he went to those schools. I don’t believe Bob Lazar could get a degree from CalTech or MIT for a very simple reason. At American Universities, when you get an undergraduate degree, you have to take all kinds of core courses in subjects that you may not be interested in. Literature, I can’t possibly imagine Bob Lazar sitting through a class in American Lit or reading poetry or something like that. He’d never stand for it. There is no way in hell that he sat through that stuff to get a degree… (
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Knapp is clearly a big supporter of Lazar, extremely good friends with him, literally wrote the forward in Lazar’s book, believes all of the claims about working at S4, and did his own research and reporting on his education - and he does not believe he actually went to MIT or CalTech.
