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I'm sure you guys overlooked this, but Turkish officials ARRESTED a bunch of syrian rebels with SARIN gas just a few months ago. I know this is ANCIENT history according to you Obots, but please read and educate yourself if you still stand by the administrations line of it being virtually "impossible" for the rebels to get SARIN gas...

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/151261/russia-asks-turkey-for-info-on-sarin-terrorists.html

Russia asks Turkey for info on sarin terrorists

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Russia has called on Turkey to share its findings in the case of Syrian rebels who were seized on the Turkish-Syrian border with a 2kg cylinder full of nerve gas sarin.

Russia’s top foreign official Sergei Lavrov tolday said the Kremlin wanted to get clear on the issue of chemical weapons used in Syria, since the allegation had taken on the role of a trading card in the conflict, becoming a focus of constant provocations.

“I do not rule out that some force may want to use it [the rumour] to say that the “red line” has been crossed and a foreign intervention is needed,” the minister said.

“We are still waiting on a comprehensive report from our Turkish colleagues,” he added, citing the incident when a gang of terrorists carrying a canister with nerve gas sarin was arrested inside the Turkish territory about two weeks ago.

Moscow calls to pick side in Syria conflict

Russia’s chief of foreign affairs has urged the international community to finally take its pick and decide whether it is going to side with forces set to topple the Syrian regime or with the ones calling for a nationwide dialogue on Syrian peace.

Speaking at a press conference, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said: “We want that… the international community took off the blinders that make its focus on its immediate urge to overthrow one leader, then unseat another one, while turning a blind eye on the outcome of these actions.”

“Whatever has been happening during this ‘Arab Spring,’ it is clear now that these events are closely connected, so it is important to choose who you are siding with… with those who want to cut the knot without looking back at the suffering nation – or with those who want to solve this problem though dialogue,” Mr. Lavrov said.

Russia urges prompt inquiry into chemical arms use in Syria - Lavrov
All of the possible instances of chemical weapons use in Syria should be established as soon as possible, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

"I would like to support Guido [German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle] regarding the need to urgently establish all of the facts linked to reports about the possible use of chemical weapons by the sides," Lavrov said at a press conference in the Kaliningrad region on Thursday.

A serious mistake was made when the Syrian government's request to investigate the possible use of chemical toxic substances in the city of Aleppo on March 19 was left without any response, but unlimited and unhindered access to any facility on Syrian territory was demanded instead, the Russian minister said.

All opposition groups in Syria should be able to be involved in reaching compromise - Lavrov

Russia insists that all structures related to the settlement of the situation in Syria should take part in the international conference on Syria, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

"All structures should be present at that conference. That applies not only to the national coalition, which has so far failed to take a constructive stance in the conference. That also applies to those opposition structures that do not want to be present at the Geneva conference if it is called under the 'umbrella' of the national coalition," Lavrov told a press conference on Thursday.

Among the organization that want to take an independent part in the conference are the National Coordination Committee and the Syrian Kurds, he said.

"We believe all opposition structures in Syria should be given an opportunity to communicate their viewpoint and participate in the achievement of a compromise, which will ensure peace, stability, ad equal rights for all ethnic and religious groups in the country," Lavrov said.

Russia vows to bring Iran to Syria parley amid Western criticism

Russia is set to push for Iranian presence at the planned Syria conference, dubbed Geneva II, in Switzerland, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday.

Mr. Lavrov stressed Moscow was intent on bringing all countries who can influence the parley to the negotiating table. And one of those world powers is Tehran, he pointed out.

The West has met this motion with a great deal of resentment. “At the current stage our partners have been quite outspoken and critical about Iran’s participation,” Sergei Lavrov said at a briefing today. “We think they are mistaken,” he added.

The Russian foreign minister vowed that Russia “will keep pressing for including all influential parties in the conference.”
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God damn nikkas should have listened to Eisenhauer. The way our policy has been in the middle east encourages instability. The whole arming the enemy build-up-to-take-down strategy has been genius. The 'bankers' behind all of this are laughing to the bank.

As long as there is religion, there will be irrational thought. As long as there is irrational thought, you will have people like the religious extremists Reagan called the founding fathers of their country, the taliban, and these syrian rebels who are really the same concept in another form.

All evidence points to it not being the Syrian military, and they had no incentive to do this. Honestly this is the best thing that could happen for the military industrial complex, shyt the same tactic (WMDs) worked in iraq, they just repackaged it. Just like how human rights violations were used to condition people against iraq when we realize the WMDs werent there, they just sped it up with Syria, weapons and human rights at the same damn time.

The Syrian ties to Russia and Iran scare me. If this escalates oil prices will fukk everything up.
 
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Noam Chomsky drops his .02

There is more in the link. Here's a brief summary.

http://lb.boell.org/web/113-1317.html

In a conversation you recorded during the first months of the revolution with the martyr Basel Shehade, you said that you had no advice or ready-made prescriptions to offer the Syria people in their predicament. Has that changed?

Honestly, nothing has changed. Syrians are facing difficult and complex circumstances and they certainly have a better idea of what they should be doing than I do. I’ve refused to give advice before, whether in Vietnam, Nicaragua or anywhere else. But perhaps I would say that Syrians have to evaluate the choices before them and consider the consequences attendant on each. You have to face the actual fact and not staying in a world of your own imagining, saying ‘I want this’ and ‘I don’t want that’.

All ultimately successful movements have made certain concessions at certain moments based on their reading of reality and an evaluation of the other options available to them. Even the Zionist movement engaged with the Peel Commission’s report in 1937, as the best of all available solutions, then proceeded from there. The Vietnamese accepted the Geneva Agreements of 1954: in effect acceding to partition. The alternative could have been the use of nuclear weapons against them or to be crushed militarily. They agreed so they might stay in the game and in my opinion they did well to agree.

It is hard to make progress in the real world without making various compromises. I have no advice other than to say don’t let your wishes whip away the facts entirely. Be aware of the facts. We live in an actual world, with all its horror and ugliness, and we have to deal with it and make our decisions within it.
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Eric Blair said:
God damn nikkas should have listened to Eisenhauer. The way our policy has been in the middle east encourages instability. The whole arming the enemy build-up-to-take-down strategy has been genius. The 'bankers' behind all of this are laughing to the bank.

As long as there is religion, there will be irrational thought. As long as there is irrational thought, you will have people like the religious extremists Reagan called the founding fathers of their country, the taliban, and these syrian rebels who are really the same concept in another form.

All evidence points to it not being the Syrian military, and they had no incentive to do this. Honestly this is the best thing that could happen for the military industrial complex, shyt the same tactic (WMDs) worked in iraq, they just repackaged it. Just like how human rights violations were used to condition people against iraq when we realize the WMDs werent there, they just sped it up with Syria, weapons and human rights at the same damn time.

The Syrian ties to Russia and Iran scare me. If this escalates oil prices will fukk everything up.
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the idiots dont see this point.....

the shills dont matter you just have to ignore em
 
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lol what did they do now
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Breh they went to Cairo and styled on the coup govt.

Graham was wildin at the press conference, saying if it walks and talks like a duck, by golly its a duck. Had the coup govt furious. Mccain did the same.

Their press conference at the White House was filled with slick digs at Obama. Mccain is like minus well regime change :yeshrug:

Graham was :ufdup: @ Obama's inaction for this long.

Both are major :troll:
 
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