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Neal is a great depth signing for cheap

But I can’t stress this enough, before or after the draft the Bucs needa go get this guy



What else needs to be said? Dawg played for Baltimore last year at 32 years old, he STILL has elite burst off the line and makes tackles look silly, still sets the edge and plays the run at a high level.

4.5 sacks, 24 pressures, 17 QB hits playing 61% of the snaps (second lowest of his entire career)

If you buy into PFF, he had a grade of 77.9 overall, which woulda ranked the 4th best out of all our defensive players in 2021 only behind Winfield Jr., Shaq Barrett, and Lavonte.

Baltimore gave him a one year deal of a $1 million base salary up to $4 million last year.
Jason Licht go get that man and add a D tackle and edge from the draft too

Shiiiet… Trey Flowers still sitting out there too. Bucs better address the D line this next month and some change. We went 13-4 while playing the corpse of JPP giving us nothing

Houston would be our 3rd rotational edge, he’ll still be able to rush on situational downs when they move JTS inside the interior and dominate slower guards
 
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Neal is a great depth signing for cheap

But I can’t stress this enough, before or after the draft the Bucs needa go get this guy



What else needs to be said? Dawg played for Baltimore last year at 32 years old, he STILL has elite burst off the line and makes tackles look silly, still sets the edge and plays the run at a high level.

4.5 sacks, 24 pressures, 17 QB hits playing 61% of the snaps (second lowest of his entire career)

If you buy into PFF, he had a grade of 77.9 overall, which woulda ranked the 4th best out of all our defensive players in 2021 only behind Winfield Jr., Shaq Barrett, and Lavonte.

Baltimore gave him a one year deal of a $1 million base salary up to $4 million last year.
Jason Licht go get that man and add a D tackle and edge from the draft too

Shiiiet… Trey Flowers still sitting out there too. Bucs better address the D line this next month and some change. We went 13-4 while playing the corpse of JPP giving us nothing

Houston would be our 3rd rotational edge, he’ll still be able to rush on situational downs when they move JTS inside the interior and dominate slower guards

I totallly agree. Houston is a consummate vet and he is hungry for a ring(his last year in KC was 2018 the year before the SB win) Trey Flowers is a good player with championship pedigree. Can get after the QB and play the run extremely well. Without his big time sack of Matt Ryan on Atls 2nd to last drive, the legendary Patriots comeback falls short.
 

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So what y’all think? Is Devonte Wyatt the consensus pick among the Bucs community?

If he makes it to 27 will they pass on him for “character concerns”?

Or we trading back. What y’all got
 

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I don't mind the trade.

I think our top targets were gone and JL been said he thinks there's a lot of value in the middle of this draft.

My only gripe is that if we do hit on our 1st pick we miss out on the 5th yr option.
 

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The trade back was good value because we only had 6 picks.

Wasn’t really any can’t miss prospects imo that fell to 27 other than Devin Lloyd and Daxton Hill.

They wasn’t gonna take Lloyd as a #3 ILB, and Hill woulda been nasty with AWJ but there’s some good safeties available rounds 2-4.
 

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Pewter Report called this one.

Didn't know much about him, but hearing good things now. Signing Suh is still possible, but if Suh doesn't sign, this is a much bigger deal than most fans realize right real time.
 

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Pewter Report called this one.

Didn't know much about him, but hearing good things now. Signing Suh is still possible, but if Suh doesn't sign, this is a much bigger deal than most fans realize right real time.
And I called it before them :mjgrin:


I wouldn’t be mad if they took a swing at Kaiir Elam in the first two rounds

And the more closer the draft comes and I look at the interior defensive lineman prospects, I think Logan Hall out of Houston has become the most intriguing option to me.

If they add about an extra 10 pounds to his frame and coach him up on having disciplined pad level and using leverage he’s gonna be a monster.

You can’t teach that size and length along with his athleticism and explosiveness off the line. Even if you gotta rotate him with a more experienced veteran (Akiem Hicks?) throughout the year similar to JTS last year

I think the kid is honestly worth the risk at 27. Arians & Licht said themselves it was time to break the mold of pure run stuffers & they need more speed & juice rushing the passer

But yeah I fukk with dudes at Pewter Report. They do great work

Also think we gonna bring back Suh and have him mentor/rotate with this kid. I really like this pick
 

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The trade back was good value because we only had 6 picks.

Wasn’t really any can’t miss prospects imo that fell to 27 other than Devin Lloyd and Daxton Hill.

They wasn’t gonna take Lloyd as a #3 ILB, and Hill woulda been nasty with AWJ but there’s some good safeties available rounds 2-4.
I would’ve taken Hill but I’m a Michigan man. After how shut ended last year I figured you guys would make sure that secondary was legit.
 

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I would’ve taken Hill but I’m a Michigan man. After how shut ended last year I figured you guys would make sure that secondary was legit.
The secondary is ok if they’re healthy and it doesn’t matter how good they are if they can’t rush the passer.

Bucs couldn’t get home consistently with 4 like they did in 2020. JPP being injured and older greatly compromised the entire defense, and we needed quick pass rush up the middle without the need to blitz

They bought in some secondary pieces in free agency and they can still get some before the draft is over.
 

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The secondary is ok if they’re healthy and it doesn’t matter how good they are if they can’t rush the passer.

Bucs couldn’t get home consistently with 4 like they did in 2020. JPP being injured and older greatly compromised the entire defense, and we needed quick pass rush up the middle without the need to blitz

They bought in some secondary pieces in free agency and they can still get some before the draft is over.
I hear all that but I’m a best player on the board sort of person. But I get the logic of it all.
 
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