No one from our generation played both sides of the fence better than Mariah Carey

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When Vision of Love came out, no one was sure. I remember debating this with friends in HS. My friend's exact words were, "She's got something in there, look at that nose". (Dont ask why I remember this) I'm not sure when we found out for sure, but is was before when we had the latino explosion ricky martin, cristina guilera. Then we heard about her dad being venezuelan. A little before then she was broadcasting the story of being teased for being light while visiting her grandmother down south.
 

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i still dont know what her ethnic makeup is lol
shes 100% white right?

edit: nvm. 50-50
 

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I am talking about Drake's enterprise...

It's not authentic....

He goes around absorbing the sounds and energy of lesser artists that are authentic...

The Caribbean shyt that he do isn't authentic...

The trap shyt he do isn't authentic...

That emo backpack rap woe is me and the RnB is the most authentic things he do....

An authentic artist to me is like a Prince


Only reason Drake ain't going around kissing the asses of White pop stars because his music is already crossover material...

Instead he kisses the asses of the street rappers that he got nothing in common with because Hip Hop is still street and trend oriented despite the Backpack Revolution...


this the shyt that confuse me about ppl, but i still respect the perspective. you describe drake as inauthentic for doing what’s needed in business.

in any business/institution you go to, that’s how it works. u put in physical labor of some sort, then when u get enough clout, what u then contribute is your ideas.

u remember that scene in the jobs movie? seth rogan character tellin him u don’t even kno how to do calligraphy, why should we listen to your ideas? u ain’t put in no pain for the set. same thing bill burr made fun of dude about.

but it’s only in hip hop we expect nikkas to do aaaallllll the work, allll the time. and don’t tell me it’s cause performance singin harder than rapping. cus it’s not. ask qm or anybody else ghostwriting for drake besides weeknd.

hip hop is a business. u expect these cac label heads to be like, “this act gets writers on the budget, but oh no, this act raps, he can’t have writers or the culture won’t respect him”? foh wit that delusion.

beyonce, drake, rihanna, nas, kanye, jay z are artists i refer to as state of the union acts. they come with albums every couple of years to tell us about their perspective on the culture atm. that means working with newer acts to communicate their messages on their platform.

if u thing that whole system is trash, fine. i respect that and would like to know why, but please keep that same energy for everybody and nuh tek set pon drake.

jamaicans love drake
chicks dig drake
the streets fukk wit drake

it’s actually the opposite, what u say about backpack drake. in my own personal experience, it’s been strictly cacs, especially liberal cacs who think they kno hip hop who hate drake. that backpack rapper demo who turned the underground into some corny technical thing especially in the 2000s.

that’s why a lot of those comments seem out of touch. “drake is a fake jamaican” is only uttered by cacs and those with they mentality. they don’t personally kno any jamaicans. cause if they did, they wouldn’t spew that cac nonsense.

and im not even mad. i listen to dudes like ben shapiro, who are tired of white guilt, so they use statistics and logic to prove why white privilege don’t exist. and the logic is correct, but it’s not sound. it lacks the knowledge that comes from experience.


the perception within and about our culture is warped. taylor swift is lauded for her writing prowess, while people question if drake wrote at all. if that ain’t backwards, iono wtf is. shapiro is correct. the problem is culture in the black community. but if we corrected it, a lot of ppl outside our culture would be terrified of the results :birdman:
 

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Who she been with besides Nick Cannon?


Derek Jeter was tearing Mariah up , bouncing on those walls in a way Tommy couldn't and it made Mariahs whole appearane develope once that melanin nut started shooting up inside her.

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Going to school with white boys back in the day, I assure you when emotions came out, them frat boys knew she was black and said as much
 

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Jay z had a chance to smash Marian around heartbreaker and he didn't want it for whatever reason, obviously he luv them light brights
 

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When Vision of Love came out, no one was sure. I remember debating this with friends in HS. My friend's exact words were, "She's got something in there, look at that nose". (Dont ask why I remember this) I'm not sure when we found out for sure, but is was before when we had the latino explosion ricky martin, cristina guilera. Then we heard about her dad being venezuelan. A little before then she was broadcasting the story of being teased for being light while visiting her grandmother down south.

Yeah I was in high school when she dropped, and what I remember is the push being that she was the next Whitney.

I think......:patrice:...that for a good minute, they did that thing they used to do. Where they would almost hide what an artist looked like from most of the public until their music and talent had won over fans. If a person wasn't looking, back in the day, you could be listening to someones music for like two years and not know what they look like!

By the time a majority of people knew FOR SURE what she looked like, several of her songs were everyones jam.

I also think she came in at a good time, I think white soul singers had already broken down the door. Guys like Color Me Bad and Michael Bolton.

Plus keeping it funky, black people jad a certain fascination with white soul singers.
 

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It's crazy how Mariah effortlessly switched between Madonna/Paula Abdul-esque pop, to powerful Whitney Houston type ballads, to Puffy/JD hip-hop infused urban jams & singing gangsta bytch hooks without breaking a sweat

What do you consider her greatest pop songs and greatest ballads?
 
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