No More Accountants! The 2014-2015 New York Jets Off-season Thread

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every QB excels when they have a pocket around them...the NFL rules are designed for passing

What does this have to do with your backpeddling thing you FAILED to tie to Winters play?

Geno is not Derek Carr who consistently does so for nothing.


**from YOUR friends at football outsiders**

You don't watch film
 
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What does this have to do with your backpeddling thing you FAILED to tie to Winters play?

Geno is not Derek Carr who consistently does so for nothing.


**from YOUR friends at football outsiders**

You don't watch film


so Geno is actually good we just don't know it yet
 

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Ha. You're trying to spin Geno's first two seasons into something they weren't. He's been bad, I don't get the effort into defending it.

Stats don't lie.
 

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Ha. You're trying to spin Geno's first two seasons into something they weren't. He's been bad, I don't get the effort into defending it.

Stats don't lie.
I'm clearly saying that the factors that I have a long said affected him ( horrible receiving core, Bad play guard ) was mostly responsible for his poor play. Once those things changed, his play improved! That is the reason why I believe he will play better. If he played poorly with the changes I asked for then I would agree with you. That is where my point comes from. And this is where you you and I disconnect. You don't acknowledge Brian winters. You don't acknowledge Steven Hill, Clyde Gates, David Nelson, Greg Salas .I do.

I said nothing about "seasons." You are now moving it to that argument like the goalpost mover you are.

Watch film.
 
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I'm clearly saying that the factors that I have a long said affected him ( horrible receiving core, Bad play guard ) was mostly responsible for his poor play. Once those things changed, his play improved! That is the reason why I believe he will play better. If he played poorly with the changes I asked for then I would agree with you. That is where my point comes from. And this is where you you and I disconnect. You don't acknowledge Brian winters. You don't acknowledge Steven Hill, Clyde Gates, David Nelson, Greg Salas .I do.

I said nothing about "seasons." You are now moving it to that argument like the goalpost mover you are.

Watch film.

I'm sure you won't respond to me and not to diss Trip at all cause I don't know his football acumen but I can get on your level and I always win our debates which you usually resort to other tactics outside of football to try to win. All in all you cool people's in my book and we just debating no need to take serious but you've been wrong about a lot.

Let's start with your fantasy that Idzik and Rex was good with each other cause you seen them acting buddy buddy not realizing that's just business. Let's get into Geno and why he really should of never started his rookie year in first place. Rex wanted Sanchez to start and Idzik wanted Geno so obvious with that botched competition. What rookie Qb comes straight into gate receiving first team reps without him earning it ? That's entitling a player and let's not forget how raw Geno was. Geno had the most horrendous footwork ever dude couldn't even do a 3 step drop without it looking bad. Then on top of that when a player usually gets hurt during training camp or pre-season they rest him but not case with Geno they had dude hobbling on a fukked up ankle cause Idzik wanted Geno so bad. By no means did Sanchez really outshines Geno by miles but he had better training camp and pre-season games dude was suppose to be starter not Geno but you know how that story goes.

Rebel you're coming from a biased opinion because you found a player you like and ignore a lot of things to push your agenda. You know how I know you're biased look how much praise you give Geno but never gave Sanchez and Geno hasn't done shyt in this league. Remember those nikka with a telestrater Geno threads and etc. Your opinion is madly biased it's not funny. You blame everything around Geno instead of giving him blame he deserves. Then you hand pick things that will support your argument but ignore one's that won't. This nfl which has a salary cap so not every player is going to be great on offense but a good qb still steps up to occasion. We have enough work to see Geno doesn't have a clue out their at all and mentally doesnt have it. People ignore mental toughness a QB suppose to have where he always keep that mentality even when shyt is fukking up bad he still hangs in there and gets the job done. Dude just doesn't have it mentally right now and I say right now cause it could chane. But how many times have seen Geno Start games horrendous but pull through? Not many and he's started off bad plenty of games. Only way I see Geno succeeding is if they dumb that offense down for him which looks like the plan with Chan Gailey because that west coast offense is not for him. Dude just doesn't have abilities to read defenses etc. And you keep showing that one play where he had to run and throw ball away but that's actually on Geno because if he read the blitz right he should of change play or hot read wide receiver. Cause person who got to him was an extra Blitzer no fukk up by Brian winters.

But until stick with your biased opinions instead of admitting you like Geno :sas1:
 

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I'm sure you won't respond to me and not to diss Trip at all cause I don't know his football acumen but I can get on your level and I always win our debates which you usually resort to other tactics outside of football to try to win. All in all you cool people's in my book and we just debating no need to take serious but you've been wrong about a lot.

Let's start with your fantasy that Idzik and Rex was good with each other cause you seen them acting buddy buddy not realizing that's just business. Let's get into Geno and why he really should of never started his rookie year in first place. Rex wanted Sanchez to start and Idzik wanted Geno so obvious with that botched competition. What rookie Qb comes straight into gate receiving first team reps without him earning it ? That's entitling a player and let's not forget how raw Geno was. Geno had the most horrendous footwork ever dude couldn't even do a 3 step drop without it looking bad. Then on top of that when a player usually gets hurt during training camp or pre-season they rest him but not case with Geno they had dude hobbling on a fukked up ankle cause Idzik wanted Geno so bad. By no means did Sanchez really outshines Geno by miles but he had better training camp and pre-season games dude was suppose to be starter not Geno but you know how that story goes.

Rebel you're coming from a biased opinion because you found a player you like and ignore a lot of things to push your agenda. You know how I know you're biased look how much praise you give Geno but never gave Sanchez and Geno hasn't done shyt in this league. Remember those nikka with a telestrater Geno threads and etc. Your opinion is madly biased it's not funny. You blame everything around Geno instead of giving him blame he deserves. Then you hand pick things that will support your argument but ignore one's that won't. This nfl which has a salary cap so not every player is going to be great on offense but a good qb still steps up to occasion. We have enough work to see Geno doesn't have a clue out their at all and mentally doesnt have it. People ignore mental toughness a QB suppose to have where he always keep that mentality even when shyt is fukking up bad he still hangs in there and gets the job done. Dude just doesn't have it mentally right now and I say right now cause it could chane. But how many times have seen Geno Start games horrendous but pull through? Not many and he's started off bad plenty of games. Only way I see Geno succeeding is if they dumb that offense down for him which looks like the plan with Chan Gailey because that west coast offense is not for him. Dude just doesn't have abilities to read defenses etc. And you keep showing that one play where he had to run and throw ball away but that's actually on Geno because if he read the blitz right he should of change play or hot read wide receiver. Cause person who got to him was an extra Blitzer no fukk up by Brian winters.

But until stick with your biased opinions instead of admitting you like Geno :sas1:
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Lol people mad at that potent truth:russ: If he does decide to reply come help him because I stay killing him in debates where he goes outside of debate to attack me :mjlol:

From the vibe I get being in jets threads dating back sohh days rebel seems to think he overmatched rest of jets fans that post in here. Dude think his opinions is facts but majOrity of time doesn't know what he's talking about. Look how he debates with jets fan belittling them on low. He know he can't do me like that cause my knowledge is up there.

But at end of day rebel kewl with me I just like to debate :pachaha:
 
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One thing im not liking is how the guard situation is shaking out so far.

Colon keeps getting the undisputed reps with first team and reporters keep asking about it and bowles keeps saying well,we are going to try everyone out and see how it goes. :wtf:

i was hoping colon was brought back for depth/insurance and one of the young guys would be given a real shot to take the job. Colon is mediocre and takes a lot of penalties.


But they arent. And aboushi and dozier are relegated to 3rd team O and winters is higher on the pecking order :wtf:


I know its early and we will have to see how it goes but from everything Ive seen aboushi>>>>>>winters.
 
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