No Love, No Lackin - Bulls vs Cavs Semi-ECFs Thread

Who Wins?

  • Cavs in 5

  • Bulls in 5

  • Cavs in 6

  • Bulls in 6

  • Cavs in 7

  • Bulls in 7

  • Ohio Lost

  • Bulls in 4

  • Cavs in 4


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HoopLife

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I don't care what he's averaging he's been having 10-30 nights the 3 games before this game. Bulls are also hurt. Never said the Hawks were a lock. I said they have a legit shot of beating either of these teams. This ain't his Miami teams.:manny:
They have a decent shot but there's no one on the hawks that could defend like butler/gibson/noah.... Lebron will have a field day.. Bron is shooting 45% in wins this series and if Kyrie is 70% healthy. Cavs in 5
 
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I said after the first quarter that Rose Gibson and Butler couldn't do it by themselves, despite the dominant start... and so I think Rose kinda became conservative with the rim attacks once the Cavs blew up the lead to 15-20. I'd like to think he had a rationale that going head strong to the rim 1-on-5 and getting clobbered 10 straight times wasn't going to solve anything if they couldn't stop the ease in which the Cavs were scoring on the other end, nor if he couldn't get his teammates into an offensive rhythm. Still, Lebron imposed his will on the game and, outside of the 1st quarter, Derrick wasn't able to keep up like he had the past couple games and in 3 of the 4 coming into tonight.

And prior to the Gibson ejection, I thought the Bulls should've explored playing Gibson, Snell, Butler, Dunleavy and Rose together whenever the Cavs went small with 1 big, Bron, Shump, Smith, Irving. That's their best, most athletic perimeter defensive unit and it would challenge the Cavs to stay home on drives, especially if the Bulls did pick and roll with whoever Irving was guarding (likely Dunleavy) to match him back up on Rose or Butler. Noah as a point center just doesn't work and Miroticic, rookie pass or not and while giving effort, can't really defend, rebound or go up strong with the ball well enough to really produce against Shumpert or Lebron, or secure 50/50 rebounds from the perkins, TTs, etc. He's not too fast but they may have to try running some Rip Hamilton screens for Miroticic to see if they can't get him some open 15 footers or driving lanes... b/c the post ups aren't really working so you have to do something else with him if he's going to be on the court.
 

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When the Bulls lose this series, I don't know how you can keep that team together after this. They've had plenty of advantages, even with Gasol missing the last two games and they still look like shyt.

Maybe it's Thibs' impending doom hanging over the team.

Keep Rose, Jimmy, and Mirotic. Everyone else is expendable. I'd also keep Noah and see if he can get back into shape even though he's been awful this year. Dude was a DPOTY just a year ago and Thibs plus injured big men is a bad combo.
 

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Keep Rose, Jimmy, and Mirotic. Everyone else is expendable. I'd also keep Noah and see if he can get back into shape even though he's been awful this year. Dude was a DPOTY just a year ago and Thibs plus injured big men is a bad combo.
I'd move Noah. He's almost worthless in the half court. Really, they should have traded him after last season when his value was sky high.
 

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Hung out with my pops last week:umad:

Smoked a bowl and watched playoff basketball :umad:

You still a heartbroken fakkit and Lebron still owns the Bulls
Hung out with your "dad" last week sure. If it makes you feel better I'm heartbroken but a fakkit never. He can own the Bulls I sure don't but Lebron owns your mouth too so guess we even :yeshrug:
 

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I'd move Noah. He's almost worthless in the half court. Really, they should have traded him after last season when his value was sky high.
It's moot now but wasn't there rumors years ago about Noah (or a package surrounding him) for Lamarcus Aldridge? lol I dunno whether there was ever any substance to it or if it was just pipe dream talk but it was discussed on here (or perhaps the hamster site) waaay back.. and i think a number of the bulls fans were more favorable to Noah at the time. It's just crazy thinking about it now, altho LMA at the time may not have had the jump in production he's had in recent years.

On topic tho: regardless of what happens you keep Rose and Butler, as that's a championship level backcourt. After that it's kinda whatever imo. The way the backcourt plays, you don't want them having to drive full steam to the basket night after night for 82 games in order for your team to score. You want to save that shyt for the playoffs, so you need someone who can score easy baskets in the post and off pick/rolls so the offense can run through him at anytime. Basically what they had/have with Gasol in a sense, but younger/less mileage... which i don't know how many of those are readily available lol. After that, you can get any number of specialty players (i.e. spot up wing defenders like Dunleavy) b/c they come a dime a dozen.

For this summer tho, unless something they can't pass up presents itself, I think they should stick with their main group (sans Noah) for another year to see if a different coach can't open things up like what Kerr did for the Warriors. Replace the specialty players if need be and gauge what the trade return on Noah would be.
 
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I think they should stick with their main group (sans Noah) for another year to see if a different coach can't open things up like what Kerr did for the Warriors. Replace the specialty players if need be and gauge what the trade return on Noah would be.
The problem with that is Thibs has just about every player playing at the peak of their abilities.
 
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