No Love, No Lackin - Bulls vs Cavs Semi-ECFs Thread

[Remy LeBreh]

*charges card*

@Bruce Wayne

I rep the Cavs cause I lived that Ohio life. Explain why you rep a Chicago team

 

[JayGatsby]

at CPs mom nudging his dad,dude lookin like "what now!!"

 

[HoopLife]

Who's blaming the refs?

the bulls were playing 5 on 8 the entire game. the opposing team doesn't shoot twice as many FT's as the home team when the home team is trying to attack the basket as well.

He pushed off on Butler before that and they missed a foul on the Rose drive previously but gg nonetheless

 

[Remy LeBreh]

That charge call on Bron was egregious, AND the nikka came back in the game IMMEDIATELY after rolling his ankle. All Time great 4th quarter performance, any other argument in invalid.

 

[ghostwriterx]

1 game? Kawhi averaged 20ppg on 48%, if he could do that to them what do you think LeBron could do?


As for what firepower, the Clippers are not very good on the perimeter, if you have 1 guy they can key in on him but the Cavs have 3 guys that could get you 20 pts from the wing, with 2 of them being capable of going into the 30-40 pts range. Kawhi/Harden didn't have anyone close to Kyrie playing next to them, shyt JR Smith would be the next best wing player next to them on those teams

The Cavs would do a better job of defending the Clippers than vice versa.

And who's guarding Blake and CP3?
You seem to forget Kyrie is playing on one leg.

 

[Supreme]

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[Malta]

And who's guarding Blake and CP3?
You seem to forget Kyrie is playing on one leg.

If they were to make the finals Kyrie would more than likely be healthy by then, he has a mild strained foot, you making it sound like he's out there with a torn meniscus

As for who would guard Blake or CP3, the Cavs have a better chance of doing an ok job defensively on Blake than the Clippers do of slowing LeBron down. There ain't a Jimmy Butler on the Clippers that can make him work, that could be one of those 30/8/8 type series from LeBron.

Same thing applies to the Bulls, they'd be able to expose the Clippers on the perimeter which is their weakness

 

[Biscayne]

Nope, the Clippers are just not built to beat the Cavs, they don't have the perimeter defenders to keep a team with perimeter players like the Cavs from scoring. Look at the damage Kawhi did vs them with Patty Mills essentially scoring whenever he wanted. The Warriors right now are looking so and if they have to play the Cavs it's Bron vs Barnes which is another mismatch, or they have to play Iguodala more minutes

The Grizz have the elite perimeter defenders with an elite defensive anchor, which is why I'd say they'd be too much for the Cavs/Bulls. The other squads are not some insurmountable problems, especially not with how they've looked in the playoffs.

LBJ and Kyrie are the only two perimeter players on the Cavs who can consistently create their own shots. If Kyrie isn't 100% and LBJ has to play that stat stuffer role(25ppg, 9ast, 10reb,) then I think any of the Western Conference teams have a steady rotation of perimeter defenders to tire LBJ and force him into tough shots. Barnes won't stop LBJ, but he'll do enough to bother him. The Bulls are so offensively inept. Any team in West with that 8pt lead going into the fourth, and dealing with a stagnant Cleveland and LeBron riding the bench to start the fourth, would've turned that 8pt lead to a 16pt lead. Golden States depth could give Cleveland issues also. They have a bevy of long armed athletic wings who they could rotate defesively on LBJ and Kyrie. Livingston, Draymond, Iggy, Klay, and they can all score.

 

[Originalman]

No way is that real doc?

 

[GoldenGlove]

Clippers are definitely balling but to say a team with lebron has no shot to win is ridiculous. Especially when that team has nobody to guard him in an iso (like Jimmy or Kawhi)

I'm not saying the Cavs will win but thats easily a 7 game series.

Where do I say they have no chance of winning?

I said I'd pick LA and gave reasons why. You're reply to what I said is ridiculous

 

[KillaCali32]

bulls gonna win this series...cleveland other players inexperienced

 

[KillaCali32]

bulls have been through too much heartbreak losing to bron...they got hm this time

 

[Malta]

LBJ and Kyrie are the only two perimeter players on the Cavs who can consistently create their own shots. If Kyrie isn't 100% and LBJ has to play that stat stuffer role(25ppg, 9ast, 10reb,) then I think any of the Western Conference teams have a steady rotation of perimeter defenders to tire LBJ and force him into tough shots. Barnes won't stop LBJ, but he'll do enough to bother him. The Bulls are so offensively inept. Any team in West with that 8pt lead going into the fourth, and dealing with a stagnant Cleveland and LeBron riding the bench to start the fourth, would've turned that 8pt lead to a 16pt lead. The Clippers have the players to dictate the pace of the game, and make Cleveland defense run and scramble. Doc is getting solid offensive and defensive minutes from his reserves. Look what they did to SA and are currently doing to Houston thus far. Those were two teams with a great collection of two way play perimeter players. Golden States depth could give Cleveland issues also. They have a bevy of long armed athletic wings who they could rotate defesively on LBJ and Kyrie. Livingston, Draymond, Iggy, Klay, and they can all score.

You're underrating the East teams and overrating the Western ones, the only West team I'd pick to really walk through the Bulls or Cavs are the Grizz, everyone else would be in for a tough series and could definitely lose against them. The Grizz are the only team in the West built to defend against pretty much all styles of play. The Clippers do not have a steady rotation of perimeter defenders, Barnes doesn't have the quickness to even make him work, in 4 of their last 5 games LeBron has scored 30 or more vs the Clippers, and in the game he didn't he had 23 in just 27 minutes (Game was over by the 3rd quarter). The Spurs wing players were trash outside of Kawhi, again had they played Patty Mills more than Parker they win that series, he averaged 10ppg in 16mpg on 50%. The Rockets don't have anyone outside of Harden that can score on the perimeter, literally nobody else.

Going against LeBron/Kyrie or Butler/Rose is a completely different ball game from what they have faced so far, they are weak on perimeter defense and have been all season. That hasn't changed, they just haven't had to play against anyone that can expose that weakness. The Bulls and Cavs would be the favorites over them in my opinion

 

[BStapies]

LBJ and Kyrie are the only two perimeter players on the Cavs who can consistently create their own shots. If Kyrie isn't 100% and LBJ has to play that stat stuffer role(25ppg, 9ast, 10reb,) then I think any of the Western Conference teams have a steady rotation of perimeter defenders to tire LBJ and force him into tough shots. Barnes won't stop LBJ, but he'll do enough to bother him. The Bulls are so offensively inept. Any team in West with that 8pt lead going into the fourth, and dealing with a stagnant Cleveland and LeBron riding the bench to start the fourth, would've turned that 8pt lead to a 16pt lead. The Clippers have the players to dictate the pace of the game, and make Cleveland defense run and scramble. Doc is getting solid offensive and defensive minutes from his reserves. Look what they did to SA and are currently doing to Houston thus far. Those were two teams with a great collection of two way play perimeter players. Golden States depth could give Cleveland issues also. They have a bevy of long armed athletic wings who they could rotate defesively on LBJ and Kyrie. Livingston, Draymond, Iggy, Klay, and they can all score.

CP3 is the only perimeter player on the Clippers that can consistently create his own show.

And the Bulls are built better defensively to stop the Cavs then the Clippers. Matt Barnes wont do anything to Lebron. Jimmy Butler can at least contain him.

 

[beenz]

bulls gonna win this series...cleveland other players inexperienced

bulls have been through too much heartbreak losing to bron...they got hm this time

I hope ya'll r right, cuz we been thru too much heartbreak