No Good Actors anymore?

[the next guy]

Can the Romantic Comedy Be Saved? -- Vulture


Ok I believe this is simply because there are no good movie stars on the come up. These are not oscar movies but a quick money maker for actors and movie studios. It can't go because then hollywood would be forced to make challenging material What do you think? I think this is just Hollywood being exposed for a lack of future a listers.

@Roman Brady @poktanju

 

[Spaceman Piff]

i don't really see the relation between a-list actors and romantic comedies. i don't think anyone's watching romantic comedies for the acting.

i think the romantic comedy is dying for a couple reasons. the following is based on not much more than my opinions.

first, most romantic movies now come straight from books. i could be wrong but this is what it seems like. twilight, the nicholas sparks books, the steve harvey book, etc. this is where the girls go to get their fix. studios don't need to bother trying to come up with ideas to get girls into the theaters when they have proven ideas already. with enough of these chick ideas already, there's no point in the studio looking for more.

second, once something about mary introduced guy humor into the romantic comedy.. it changed the game. i think that movie really led to "bromance" movies. 2 examples off the top of my head are wedding crashers and superbad. both are about guys chasing girls.. but the "romance" is centered around the two main guys in each movie. wedding crashers isn't about owen wilson and rachel mcadams.. it's about the relationship between owen wilson and vince vaughn. they even go through the typical breakup/makeup. michael cera and jonah hill were gay for each other in superbad. judd apatow movies are a good example of what romantic comedies have become actually. knocked up and 40 year old virgin.

enough about that though..

i think there's decent young hollywood talent out there. jgl and gosling seem to be leading the pack. i'm not sure if you still consider them young though. thor and spiderman are getting a push. it looked like shia was gonna be next, but he fukked things up. i thought lawless was dope though so maybe there's still hope. there's jennifer lawrence.

a bit older than them.. we got christian bale. i'm on the tom hardy bandwagon right now. matt damon.

i dunno man. the more i think about it, the more i'm beginning to think hollywood is in better shape than i originally thought.

 

[Roman Brady]

i don't really see the relation between a-list actors and romantic comedies. i don't think anyone's watching romantic comedies for the acting..

I agree partly they dont necceraily have to be the creme de la creme.But to say ppl dont watch rom coms because of the acting is about of a goof.Cuz the acting will lend itself to important aspects such as comedic timing/chemistry e.t.c

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i dunno man. the more i think about it, the more i'm beginning to think hollywood is in better shape than i originally thought.

You cant possibly be serious this era basically has 0 movie "stars". And the A-listers we have now wouldnt be anything more than supporting acts in yester years..Ryan gosling is a dead eyed cold actor who has zero range. Channing tatum? the less said the better.Kirsten stewart? robert pattinson? all these noobs are lightweights..And you cant tell me bradley cooper is anything to write home about.If u think having a plethora of mediocrity with a hand full of actors with potential is a good indicator of the future of the industry

 

[Spaceman Piff]

i don't know how to word it well.. but comedic acting is just different from regular acting. it's why comedies aren't really considered for best picture or actors who only do comedies are never considered an a-list actor. of course it still requires talent but sincere acting isn't the main draw of a romantic comedy.

i'm not sure what you mean by era. what age does the actor have to be for them to be considered this era?

will smith, matt damon, brad pitt, depp are still in their 40s.

christian bale, dicaprio, gordon-levitt, tom hardy are in their 30s.. same as channing tatum. this era looks fine to me.

i guess it gets weaker after that, but they're still in their 20s. andrew garfield, shia, jesse eisenberg, chris hemsworth.. who knows how their careers will turn out but they're doing pretty well so far.

edit: left this thread and saw this one. movie starring ryan gosling and bradley cooper that looks like it's gonna be good. i'm saying.. we got established movie stars and a few more with the potential to become stars. what more could you ask for?

 

[the next guy]

I think the problem is we have no one with presence.

 

[the cool]

Ryan Gosling and Joesph Gordan da Gawd holding shyt down breh. the fukk you been

 

[NZA]

what if the rom com genre itself is just not popular? the actors themselves are fine, i just dont think young people want to watch rom coms.

 

[Savior]

I agree there's no young Pacino's or Deniro's coming out but using rom coms as an argument to support this? Wackest argument that could be made.....rom coms are just played the fukk out. 90% of them have the same exact plot, same scenes, same ending. How many times can you watch the same movie over and over? The fact that there's no huge A listers is because of the types of movies that are popular nowadays. Comic book movies and big book franchises. You can put any actors in these movies and they would still eat off it. People don't think "oh shyt Christian Bale is Batman" they just say "I gotta see that new Batman". Although when someone puts in a performance like Heath Ledger it helps but those are far in between....movies like Thor, Captain America, etc. still made good money even tho you couldn't name any of the stars in em.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

i don't know how to word it well.. but comedic acting is just different from regular acting. it's why comedies aren't really considered for best picture or actors who only do comedies are never considered an a-list actor. of course it still requires talent but sincere acting isn't the main draw of a romantic comedy.

i'm not sure what you mean by era. what age does the actor have to be for them to be considered this era?

will smith, matt damon, brad pitt, depp are still in their 40s.

christian bale, dicaprio, gordon-levitt, tom hardy are in their 30s.. same as channing tatum. this era looks fine to me.

i guess it gets weaker after that, but they're still in their 20s. andrew garfield, shia, jesse eisenberg, chris hemsworth.. who knows how their careers will turn out but they're doing pretty well so far.

edit: left this thread and saw this one. movie starring ryan gosling and bradley cooper that looks like it's gonna be good. i'm saying.. we got established movie stars and a few more with the potential to become stars. what more could you ask for?

Depp, Bale, Daniel Day-Lewis, DiCaprio and Damon all belong in the HOF. The strength is in the range, I might even through Smith in there considering a film like I AM LEGEND where he essentially is in the entire movie by himself. JGL is showing he has range, but i wanna see him in a straight dialogue driven drama, or perhaps a period piece.

Good acting is still around its just that most people don't go to see good movies. Hell you even got Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises that had a nikka not even remembering that was fukkin Aragorn. Or Javier Bardem in damn near everything he has done.

Lastly, you also have to remember that lots of great talent is going straight to premium cable TV, between HBO, AMC and Showtime you got PLENTY of great actors. I mean between Mad Men, Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad ALONE is like 20+ Emmys for acting.

 

[prophecypro]

Good directors and writers are needed more. Depending on how good or bad they are and their ability to work with an actor or actress they can bring the best or worst out of them. Which is why you have some actors who great in one thing, not good in another and so on and so forth. So it really depends on what the higher ups are crafting when they make these movies.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

"rom com" has become synonymous with "shytty ass movie"

 

[obarth]

Good directors and writers are needed more. Depending on how good or bad they are and their ability to work with an actor or actress they can bring the best or worst out of them. Which is why you have some actors who great in one thing, not good in another and so on and so forth. So it really depends on what the higher ups are crafting when they make these movies.

Basically. It's easy to say this generation could never see the previous, when all this generation is getting to work with are rom coms and sequels. Which of these young actors are getting Edward Scissorhands, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Good Will Hunting, etc early on in their careers? shyt, Ed Norton got an Oscar nom for his first movie and did American History X four years later. Actors nowadays are getting comic book films and horror flicks.

That said, I feel like they'd be a lot better off if they went the route their predecessors went. Instead of just going to acting school and being attractive, spend years doing stage work. It's not a coincidence that the best actors have and sometimes still do wok on the small stage.

 

[prophecypro]

Basically. It's easy to say this generation could never see the previous, when all this generation is getting to work with are rom coms and sequels. Which of these young actors are getting Edward Scissorhands, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Good Will Hunting, etc early on in their careers? shyt, Ed Norton got an Oscar nom for his first movie and did American History X four years later. Actors nowadays are getting comic book films and horror flicks.

That said, I feel like they'd be a lot better off if they went the route their predecessors went. Instead of just going to acting school and being attractive, spend years doing stage work. It's not a coincidence that the best actors have and sometimes still do wok on the small stage.

True, stage work will definetly craft your natural ability. TV and movie is hard, you might be on a set and do 10 takes of a scene and your weakest one might be the one a director goes with but stage work can help you craft it.
It can be difficult tough, when you young and get typecast the first few years, its hard to break your own percpetion even for stage work. And theatre has become like Independent filmmaking where its not neccessairly the the natural hotbed it once was and there's plenty of awful stories there too.
Its tough but no doubt, its the best place to hone your craft, just gotta keep at it. I never really diss actors alone for wack projects, there's always more to it.

 

[StraxStrax]

Ryan gosling is a dead eyed cold actor who has zero range.

 

[Kartel13]

I agree partly they dont necceraily have to be the creme de la creme.But to say ppl dont watch rom coms because of the acting is about of a goof.Cuz the acting will lend itself to important aspects such as comedic timing/chemistry e.t.c

.You cant possibly be serious this era basically has 0 movie "stars". And the A-listers we have now wouldnt be anything more than supporting acts in yester years..Ryan gosling is a dead eyed cold actor who has zero range. Channing tatum? the less said the better.Kirsten stewart? robert pattinson? all these noobs are lightweights..And you cant tell me bradley cooper is anything to write home about.If u think having a plethora of mediocrity with a hand full of actors with potential is a good indicator of the future of the industry

Fukk outta here with this. Dude has plenty of range. He went from Drive, Crazy Stupid Love, to Ides of March, and did well (as well as received well) in all 3 of those movies.