No Bipartisanship, No Problem: Official 2014 State of the Union Address Thread

[KingpinOG]

I missed part of the speech. Did Obama really talk about closing Guantanamo Bay? Again? For like the fifth year in a row?



How long has he been president again?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Anyone watching cnn just heard this weirdo cac make a sex comparison to obama's speech?
.

been tellin people Barry has made cacs go INSANE

"I think I've said before that I think a speech by Barack Obama is a lot like sex. The worst there ever was is still excellent, and I thought he gave a very competent performance tonight," he said during CNN's post-speech coverage.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/alex_castellanos_obama_sotu_like_sex



I'd bet money this cac watches cuckold porn

 

[Type Username Here]

Criticism of the speech:

1- Way too much corporate welfare talk. Begging CEOs is pathetic.

2- Usual lies, hypocrisy and propaganda:

It should be the power of our vote, not the size of our bank account, that drives our democracy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/u...xnnlx=1390590111-ykAICvElK6JsA6aToVld0w&_r=1&

That’s why I’ve imposed prudent limits on the use of drones

Finally, let’s remember that our leadership is defined not just by our defense against threats, but by the enormous opportunities to do good and promote understanding around the globe – to forge greater cooperation, to expand new markets, to free people from fear and want. And no one is better positioned to take advantage of those opportunities than America.

Said with a straight face while collecting data from citizens around the world for storage

My fellow Americans, no other country in the world does what we do. On every issue, the world turns to us, not simply because of the size of our economy or our military might – but because of the ideals we stand for, and the burdens we bear to advance them.

It isn't because of our economic standing or military might....ok sir.

 

[mrken12]

been tellin people Barry has made cacs go INSANE



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/alex_castellanos_obama_sotu_like_sex



I'd bet money this cac watches cuckold porn

Watches? He probably makes it.

 

[No1]

a speech's content doesn't matter if the audience has no faith in the person making it.

This is really a poor attempt to justify making an actual critique of policy points. My comments had nothing to do with whether or not you believe these things can get done (which would be unfair any way because he's never had a moment where he's said he's use an executive order and didn't), it's about mediocre critiques of the content. There is a big difference between "I don't think anything will get done"--where @acri1 is at (as am I) and calling it "empty rhetoric." (@Serious) It may be partially hopeless rhetoric but far from empty. With that type of attitude how do even expect to know if something will or will not bring about actual results . Why in the world are you all sitting here using broad strokes arguments instead of looking at exactly what he has set out to do in the context of what he's capable of doing and how it will effect policy...

Isn't this supposed to be HL, aren't you supposed to be able to debate at a level a big higher than the disaffected and disinterested person on the street....

Instead of trying to figure out what things like the MyRa savings new suggestion that he mentioned in this speech are, or whether it sends the correct signal to the Democratic Party or will start the correct national conversation....we're upset because none of the things he said he needs Congress to do are likely to happen. No wonder whenever I post threads that talk about how regulations are working, etc....they all flop...come on fellas.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@BarNone I guess im the disaffected guy on the street now then . Ill look it all over tomorrow and read more about it in the coming days of course but all I feel towards thid now is a thick, distinct malaise.

 

[ltheghost]

this was possibly obama's best SOTU speech

im not saying it will in any way please a card carrying communist, but as far as american politics go, he hit the center-left wing points he needed while not pissing off the dumbass registered independents who ultimately just end up voting for one of the two established parties even though they think they are so hardcore. for progressives, he did mention some moderate use of executive powers, though he was not hitting republicans as hard as i would like, but i have long since learned to not expect that. i also like the frankness about obamacare bipartisanship. i think republicans wont even bother opposing obamacare in any significant way going forward. this looks like a turning point. i rate this speech an A in terms of political impact for his most important legislation.

the first republican response was much better than the swagless jindal and rubio, but it was devoid of substance. she seems like a nicer version of a middle aged republican woman with a down syndrome son, but that alone is not enough to make me think republicans have any answers for the serious questions of our times. i rate her speech a C+

..... But yeah I agree this was one of Obama's better speeches. I liked that he was talking that shyt to those useless fukks in congress..

 

[Wild self]

Why is Cathy McMorris addressing women about the need for better jobs, health care, and education? Didn't she hear from the Democrats that women are only concerned with getting free birth control and getting their fukk on????

@ how true that is

 

[Wild self]

yeah bro I didn't know if you completed your masters yet or not, but I remember talking with one of my buds who's in administration straight up asked if I knew anyone with an advanced degree in Math. The Job started off at like 65-70k a year with full benefits....

It's teaching though

A Masters Degree can't guarantee a 6 figure job anymore

 

[Kritic]

Pres. Obama started the speech stating what he has done buying some credibility for his speech. That is part of the reason his speech was effective in the first place.

 

[Kritic]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...tate-of-the-union-speech-and-it-wasnt-pretty/

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

This is really a poor attempt to justify making an actual critique of policy points. My comments had nothing to do with whether or not you believe these things can get done (which would be unfair any way because he's never had a moment where he's said he's use an executive order and didn't), it's about mediocre critiques of the content. There is a big difference between "I don't think anything will get done"--where @acri1 is at (as am I) and calling it "empty rhetoric." (@Serious) It may be partially hopeless rhetoric but far from empty. With that type of attitude how do even expect to know if something will or will not bring about actual results . Why in the world are you all sitting here using broad strokes arguments instead of looking at exactly what he has set out to do in the context of what he's capable of doing and how it will effect policy...

Isn't this supposed to be HL, aren't you supposed to be able to debate at a level a big higher than the disaffected and disinterested person on the street....

Instead of trying to figure out what things like the MyRa savings new suggestion that he mentioned in this speech are, or whether it sends the correct signal to the Democratic Party or will start the correct national conversation....we're upset because none of the things he said he needs Congress to do are likely to happen. No wonder whenever I post threads that talk about how regulations are working, etc....they all flop...come on fellas.

@Type Username Here what say you on this?

 

[Type Username Here]

@Type Username Here what say you on this?

I actually don't disagree with him on most of what he said. I recognize the opposition's unwillingness to help and I understand there is a procedure to follow. I just think sometimes he and other Democrats use it to push centrist or moderate policies from the start. The negotiations happen on one side before being presented to the other side.

That's not really my problem with this Administration though. My main problems are actions independent of Congressional gridlock. When it comes to this, the speech was absolutely filled with empty rhetoric here and there.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I actually don't disagree with him on most of what he said. I recognize the opposition's unwillingness to help and I understand there is a procedure to follow. I just think sometimes he and other Democrats use it to push centrist or moderate policies from the start. The negotiations happen on one side before being presented to the other side.

That's not really my problem with this Administration though. My main problems are actions independent of Congressional gridlock. When it comes to this, the speech was absolutely filled with empty rhetoric here and there.

Never mind then. I was just trying to instigate.

 

[Serious]

@Type Username Here what say you on this?

I actually don't disagree with him on most of what he said. I recognize the opposition's unwillingness to help and I understand there is a procedure to follow. I just think sometimes he and other Democrats use it to push centrist or moderate policies from the start. The negotiations happen on one side before being presented to the other side.

That's not really my problem with this Administration though. My main problems are actions independent of Congressional gridlock. When it comes to this, the speech was absolutely filled with empty rhetoric here and there.

Brehs tell me this isn't the trillest response to the SOTU address:


Peep the 0.27 seconds mark.