Nigerian Presidential Election: Counting underway / fukkery underway

[thekyuke]

Igbo enwe eze - "The Igbos have no king"

Autocratic rule is not in our nature and we shall not stomach another useless dictator.

You guys are similar to Kikuyus in that respect. We've never had the concept of royalty or born leaders but a more equitable meritocracy of elders. IMO,this could be why both people have long been at the head of democratic efforts in their respective countries since colonialism.

 

[JajaOfOpobo]

You think tribal division is bad just look at the religious division

The Northern elites keep their people uneducated using mainly religion, making them easy to control and very disposable

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

The Northern elites keep their people uneducated using mainly religious, making them easy to control and very disposable

They’ve admitted as much. But my God is not asleep and now their youths are becoming terrorists and bandits

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Why not him?
I actually spoke to him and Seun and Yeni Kuti
Despite the Kuti family’s reluctance to get involved politcally because of how the Govt. treated them and their father, they actually honoured my request to have an AAC networking event at the Afrika Shrine because they see his potential.


He has been the most transparent in terms of how he has funded his campaign
He has addressed the plight of Biafra
And Human Rights, renewable energy, infant and maternal mortality along with increasing min. wage are some of his main points of interest.

Because he is not a tief he has no money to pay for security during his campaign much less pay for votes like the other two main candidates


He won his state (Ondo) people say he is too young but young people are Nigeria’s biggest resource

Nigerians respect old thieves and idiots but not young heroes

 

[sportscribe]

I'm 70% sure PMB will win. IMO,the structural issues are too deep for even a good leader,much less Atiku to solve.

Could be possible. A lot of people suggest a sort of 'benevolent dictator' like a Paul Kagame, but that would be a pipe dream in Nigeria. The country is too large, has too many resources and of course, a lot of different ethnic groups. It would eventually lead to ethnic tension and violence. The army of course would wrest control eventually and that would be it.

Imo, what would be more pragmatic is a sociopolitical and economic revolution at the state level. By this I mean you need a state government that undergoes a huge and rapid transformation. You'd need to have a state become a Hong Kong or Qatar within the country.

Best case scenario is that you have one or two other states follow suit after intense internal pressure and perhaps pressure from the Federal level (reduce allocations of underperforming states). Of course on the flipside, you could have one state performing exceedingly while the others continue to loot like they've been doing for the past 20 years.

 

[Theyeboah]

You want Biafra so bad?

Give up all the oil concessions and allow them to station militirized units from Nigeria on those fields and I'm sure they'd work ish out with you.

If you think you're leaving and taking the oil then you're a war monger and you want your people to suffer. You don't have the population nor the means to fight this war. So stop advocating death. BIAFRA is a pipe dream.

 

[phcitywarrior]

You want Biafra so bad?

Give up all the oil concessions and allow them to station militirized units from Nigeria on those fields and I'm sure they'd work ish out with you.

If you think you're leaving and taking the oil then you're a war monger and you want your people to suffer. You don't have the population nor the means to fight this war. So stop advocating death. BIAFRA is a pipe dream.

This is the only way it's gonna work. But if you put militirized units of the coast of Biafra then really you're just being encircled by another country's sovereign force.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

This is false. Nigeria has a weak state and political class doesn't know how to create incentives properly.

In a Nigeria with a strong economic framework people won't have time for useless bickering and fighting.

This is why there's been a push to restructure the country to account for the regional differences. The South East is skilled in X then allow them to set a certain set of rules to govern themselves to a degree. The west is good at Y then allow them dominion for Y. So on and so forth. Federal government should play a lesser role in the economic viability of certain pockets of the nation.

But the issue is the Federal government wants everything to go through it. No room for compromise. Nigeria is a federal state being run as a unitary state.

Get in a right leader that fights the proper legislation and you could see very big changes. Nigeria needs a very skilled and tactical politician that can play both sides of the aisle but is focused on economic growth.

Once the nation get the proper framework to move, then it's be like a runaway train.

The North will never allow it.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

You want Biafra so bad?

Give up all the oil concessions and allow them to station militirized units from Nigeria on those fields and I'm sure they'd work ish out with you.

If you think you're leaving and taking the oil then you're a war monger and you want your people to suffer. You don't have the population nor the means to fight this war. So stop advocating death. BIAFRA is a pipe dream.

Sit down Afonja

When did we advocate for war? We want a referendum

 

[Premeditated]

Are you saying he was dated as in past tense?

Say what you will but Kagame is the only black leader on the planet that I seen talk about knowledge economy and industrialization.

Rwanda has many US neighborhoods looking like they are the 3rd world lol

and yet their still poorer than most those east african countries countries.

Ones those other countries eventually get their shyt together, it's lights out for Kagame. Burundi has a more highly educated population and they have minerals. I know it's going through some civil unrest, but leaders have been putting groundwork to tun some of those raw materials into product. Magufuli and his folks in Tanzania have been aggressive about industrialization. Tanzania doesn't even trade raw materials like they use too.

 

[Theyeboah]

This is the only way it's gonna work. But if you put militirized units of the coast of Biafra then really you're just being encircled by another country's sovereign force.

True but there's no other work around. They could care less about Igbos I'm sure. But that precious precious natural resource called oil in a country with such poor currency.

 

[Theyeboah]

Sit down Afonja

When did we advocate for war? We want a referendum

Lol a referendum in Nigeria?
You see how your election went?
No one is allowing you to leave legally or illegally.
It's always going to come to war, always.

 

[Premeditated]

Lies. Leadership sucks and oil money fukked up the whole thing.

Nigeria is genuinely Africa's only hope for a superpower that can throw its weigh around in the world.
First and foremeost they have the population, they have the wealth, and you take into account the diaspora no ones fukking with em when it comes to an educated base. Fix the country and stop its atrocities and all will move back home.

South Africa is stupid nice and as oppressed a dictator as they are no black person in SA actually wants to leave SA cause life is sweet as hell if you make it and your with your own people.

Democracy no longer has a place in Africa in all honesty.
China has a dictator cause they know you need a leader to be unquestioned when there are greater powers tryna harm you.
Russia has a dictator as well. Europe doesn't do it cause they americas bytches.

tbh, I wasn't even sure when I hit submit

I always thought that it doesn't take alot for Nigeria to start seeing double digit growth for a decade. they don't even need a GREAT leader, just people slightly more competent than the once they've had now. They have the most prosperous diaspora outta Africa.
But Congo has a high population all the minerals and is very vast so I always though their ceiling is very high

 

[MikelArteta]

tbh, I wasn't even sure when I hit submit

I always thought that it doesn't take alot for Nigeria to start seeing double digit growth for a decade. they don't even need a GREAT leader, just people slightly more competent than the once they've had now. They have the most prosperous diaspora outta Africa.
But Congo has a high population all the minerals and is very vast so I always though their ceiling is very high

What does a prosperous diaspora lead to breh? Nothing really but folks sending money back home to their struggling family through worldremit. And when they go back for christmas staying at the wheatbaker instead of the blowfish. Thanks to express entry over here in Canada there’s been tons and tons of Nigerians coming here and they are extremely educated and smart. I’ve met tons and they ain’t going back .

Will take generations, why would you stay in Nigeria as a dr for example making a few hundred thousand naira a month where you can make so much more anywhere on earth. Everything needs to change - corruption, good paying jobs, a good healthcare system, roads, infrastructure, education system, how about proper electricity, a big ass population surge that the country isn't built for ish like that doesn't happen overnight or with a new president. Can't even get a 30,000 naira (82usD) min monthly wage. When the average young woman can make more being a olosho than a analyst at glo you know things are messed.

Everyone talks about oil ad this but venezuela has the highest oil reserves and is number 11 in oil production per day (nigeria is 13) and there friggin broke and on the edge of collapse.

 

[African Peasant]

These people don't know Nigeria's history. They've never heard of Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, Obasanjo, Buhari, Babangida, Sani Abacha or Abdusalami Abubakar. Don't mind them ooo

I heard about it, but never mind.