NFL Week 12: What Have We Learned??!

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Is Thomas even in the league still? Haven't heard his name in a while.

Michael Thomas was the WR2 in New Orleans.
But he injured his toe or heel last season and only played a few games in September, I believe.

Then this year, he hasn't looked very good. And it didn't help that Derek Carr was his quarterback.

Michael Thomas will be 31 next year and his days as a WR1 are over. He's likely in that Julio Jones stage of his career where you'd expect more out of him because of his history and name recognition, but he's no longer that guy.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Nah jokes can’t save you. Talk actual numbers.

Lamar is 20th in pass yards per game. And low key not as good a passer as the inflated % would imply. He’s 12th in QBR

Now what do we call a QB with an elite defense and 2 headed —-THREE headed——monster at RB who isn’t asked to pass the ball?? Any other year, any other player, we’d call that a game manager.

So this year? Right now? Lamar Jackson is Alex Smith with an extra gear

You can't just ignore the rushing attack like that's not a large part of his game. Another poster tried this with Hurts and I stand by my comments about that being fukking stupid and just y'all just to craft an argument towards your biases. Same shyt racist analysts have done to athletic black QB's for years. The problems he causes for defenses just by being on the damn field is enough to disqualify him as "game manager" thats just stupid stuff.

 

[28 Gramz]

You can't just ignore the rushing attack like that's not a large part of his game. Another poster tried this with Hurts and I stand by my comments about that being fukking stupid and just y'all just to craft an argument towards your biases. Same shyt racist analysts have done to athletic black QB's for years. The problems he causes for defenses just by being on the damn field is enough to disqualify him as "game manager" thats just stupid stuff.

His rushing tds don't compare to Hurts either he only has 5, they're not on the same level. Has nothing to do with race he just hasn't been that good or productive this year.

 

[DrexlersFade]

Bills are no longer the regular season champs and have a HIGH RATE of NOT making the playoffs

You definitely a Dolphins fan posing as a 49ers fan no 49er fan cares about the Bills like you do just admit it old man.

 

[Braman]

You can't just ignore the rushing attack like that's not a large part of his game. Another poster tried this with Hurts and I stand by my comments about that being fukking stupid and just y'all just to craft an argument towards your biases. Same shyt racist analysts have done to athletic black QB's for years. The problems he causes for defenses just by being on the damn field is enough to disqualify him as "game manager" thats just stupid stuff.

Oh gosh. We can’t have a legitimate discussion on Lamar as a passer bc of this bullshyt. To use that in 2023 when pretty soon the majority of QBs will be black? That’s embarrassing bruh

And don’t compare Hurts to Lamar. Hurts has proven himself as a passer. And this year even tho not as good as before, 13th in pass yards per game, 6th in QBR

And wait so in your own words, you’re saying we judging Lamar on that old school scale? So you DO want him graded like Cam, Vick, Vince, etc were?! Setting black QBs back 2 decades just to avoid being critical of Lamar

 

[Shadow King]

It’s funny cause Lamar literally has been a better passer than everybody on that list except maybe pat and Dak

Yall gotta let the Tyreek shyt go. A QB is winning the award.

And it shouldn't be that way just cause.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Oh gosh. We can’t have a legitimate discussion on Lamar as a passer bc of this bullshyt. To use that in 2023 when pretty soon the majority of QBs will be black? That’s embarrassing bruh

And don’t compare Hurts to Lamar. Hurts has proven himself as a passer. And this year even tho not as good as before, 13th in pass yards per game, 6th in QBR

And wait so in your own words, you’re saying we judging Lamar on that old school scale? So you DO want him graded like Cam, Vick, Vince, etc were?! Setting black QBs back 2 decades just to avoid being critical of Lamar

You’re the idiot who called him a game manager not me. Game managers don’t just change everything a defense does by stepping on the field. It’s just more garbage from people that like to do hot takes

If you wanna say, hey Lamar could be better passing but they’re currently 9-3 so it’s fine. Thats a way more reasonable take than calling him a fukking game manager

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Is Thomas even in the league still? Haven't heard his name in a while.

He's on IR he hurt his knee a few games back

 

[28 Gramz]

You’re the idiot who called him a game manager not me. Game managers don’t just change everything a defense does by stepping on the field. It’s just more garbage from people that like to do hot takes

If you wanna say, hey Lamar could be better passing but they’re currently 9-3 so it’s fine. Thats a way more reasonable take than calling him a fukking game manager

Defenses are scared of his legs that's it. He is a game manager QB, the majority of his snaps are passing plays and he's been mid in every stat besides completion % because he drinks and dunks.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Lamar has 13 TDs on the season and 3 of them were in the Lions game. Even in some of the blowouts he has games where he has 1 or less TDs. He's an exciting game manager with an elite defense.

Defenses don't game plan for game managers. If you just look at stats yeah you can make that argument, but if you watch the game, defenses are keying on Lamar.

 

[28 Gramz]

And it shouldn't be that way just cause.

Reek had an argument before the KC game where he was shut out and basically lost them the game with that snatch fumble. For a WR to win they literally would have to be flawless and break records in historic fashion. He was also a non factor in the games against NE,PHI,KC and Buffalo.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

I learned I don't know which team I rather see lose more with their annoying ass fanbases, Philly or San Fran

Let's go Dallas, yay yay

In either case both are my #1 and #2 to win it all.


Book still out on Levis, but unless dude takes an astronomical leap we may be in for 10 years of having AT BEST the 3rd highest rated QB in the division (If Richardson ever gets healthy, 4th)

Speaking on it, fukk CJ Shroud. Let me gone and get the hate started now, that dude is goin to be a fukkin problem.
@Trav @murksiderock


Bryce is too damn small man. I don't care how much brain power you have...you cannot have the athletic build of a Enterprise rental employee or some shyt and play that position, I'm sorry.


Mahomes is still the best QB in the land. And if it came down to them having to travel to Bmore this go around...I got my money on Pat. Won't be sold on Lamar as a playoff performer until I see it. Sorry militants.


Pittsburgh may not ever get the QB they desperately need at this rate.


Herbert is NOT on Mahomes' level, but he does need a coach change. He and that roster are too talented to be folding how they do. That division is supposed to be up for grabs every year


NFC south,

 

[Braman]

You’re the idiot who called him a game manager not me. Game managers don’t just change everything a defense does by stepping on the field. It’s just more garbage from people that like to do hot takes

If you wanna say, hey Lamar could be better passing but they’re currently 9-3 so it’s fine. Thats a way more reasonable take than calling him a fukking game manager

Oh nooow we exercising discretion around the QB position? So Josh Allen can just be ass but we gotta tiptoe around Lamar. Foh. I been talking about this ‘nicely’ all year. We off that now. He’s trash

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Defenses are scared of his legs that's it. He is a game manager QB, the majority of his snaps are passing plays and he's been mid in every stat besides completion % because he drinks and dunks.

Baltimore is fukking 4th in the NFL in offensive DVOA. That's not something that happens with a fukking "game manager" QB. It's outrageous hot take

They're up there with San Fran, Buffalo, and Miami. But yeah sure he's a game manager

Team Total DVOA

Check out every NFL team's total DVOA (defense-adjusted value over average). DVOA helps identify the top teams in the league using advanced analytics. %

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[Godless Socialist CEO]

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