NFL 100 anniversary team QB finalists

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Young should be thankful for getting out of Tampa and the USFL



steve doesn’t make this run, the Niners are 9-7 and don’t make the playoffs

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Also, that long TD pass with about 40 seconds left from Montana to Rice against the Giants that season.

 

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Also, that long TD pass with about 40 seconds left from Montana to Rice against the Giants that season.


The only game Roger Craig ever rushed for 100 yards vs the Giants. Roger always ran like a p*ssy vs the Giants
 

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on one those last bills tds that wr stepped out of bounds but there was no replay back then for it to be reviewed. but yeah I heard that's the day when pass only offense took a hit and run n shoot kinda died.

Houston hired Buddy Ryan as DC the next year, since their defense collapsed so badly in that game. He would always bash the run-and-shoot offense and call it “chuck and duck”. Houston closed out 1993 with 11 straight RS wins but were one and done in the playoffs again, losing to Joe Montana and the Chiefs.

Montana again killed a Buddy Ryan defense in the 4th quarter, and Houston’s O-line got manhandled by Derrick Thomas and the Chiefs. That was a hectic season for Houston, at its worst was when Jeff Alm crashed when driving drunk and his best friend (rumored to be his gay lover), died in the accident. After realizing what he had done, Alm grabbed a shotgun and killed himself.
 

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Brees often gets overlooked due to being in the same era as Brady and Manning, and Rodgers for that matter.

Comparing QBs and WRs in different eras is nearly impossible because of the changes in rules, and offensive philosophies as well. The big rule changes came in 1978 and then they reinforced them starting in 2004. A passer rating of 90 would get you ranked among the best in the 80s, nowadays it sounds unimpressive. Passer rating also doesn’t take into account sacks. Dan Marino, for example, was the hardest guy in the NFL to sack. i

Pro-Football Reference does have a section for adjusted statistics which takes into account the era. That’s better to look at for QBs than raw numbers.
 

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Nah. You just dont want to talk about the actual plays because you likely didnt watch the game, so youre numbers heavy. I can tell you that the Oilers did a shyt job holding that lead due to not giving the ball enough to Lorenzo White in the second half, being in that gimmick ass run n shoot where they didnt pound the football and play keep away.

and this wasnt Warren’s fault either. Missed catches, bad snap on FG attempt.

you didnt watch that game if you put it as a mark against Warren

This is truth I saw the fukking game. The problem was they didn't run the ball to bleed the lead. Just like the rams choked or threw that superbowl vs the pats when they literrally abandoned the run and faulk was avg 5 plus a carry.

With the Oilers they had no FB and no TE. There was a 3rd and short play they ran in that game where they had a extra lineman come in because they couldn't get short yardage. I think tally or bruce blew up the play.

Also the game was such a disaster that the next year the oilers got a TE and a FB for short yardage plays.
 

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Saying Steve McNair is the best QB of the last 20 years is no hot take. Especially when you take into account CIRCUMSTANCES.

Everyone considers Jeff Fisher the worst coach ever nowadays. But in the early 2000s he was considered one of the best. That was because of Steve McNair.

McNair overcame one of the worst coaches in NFL history to make it to a Super Bowl, win a regular season MVP, as well as making the playoffs almost every season. He also did this with only one quality receiver his entire career (Derrick Mason). As well as fighting tons of injuries that would have ended many a career.

If Steve McNair had a great offensive mastermind like Sean Payton as his head coach or played with tons of elite receivers he would have broken so many records. His PHYSICAL talents were unmatched. The guy had an arm as strong as Mahomes but was built and could run like Cam Newton. Physically he was as good as you could want for a QB.

If there was an draft available where every QB who played in the 2000s and 2010s was available, Steve McNair would be the easy 1st overall pick. He was the most talented than Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or anyone else you wanna name.

Here is the thing swag. I ignore this list because the league isn't going to have an honest discussion of the position. You can't have a top QB list if the past 100 years when 48 of those first 100 years a black person couldn't even start at QB (Marlin Brisco in 1968) and a black QB could not start multiple years until 1969 (James Harris).

Even after those two black QBs started...multiple black QBs had been sabotaged from offensive playcalling to lack of talent given to them on teams. Not to mention black QBs not being drafted some what consistantly until the 1980s and even then they still had to deal with double standards.

Also it has taken until the last few years for black QBs to be drafted in mass, have teams actually try to put them in positive situations that embrace their skills and give them help on the offensive side of the ball. That is why we are about to have 3 of the last 4 MVPs be black QBs. And if you don't believe me ask yourself in the 2000s or 1990s would any team change their entire offense to accommodate Lamar Jackson or any black QB with his skill set?

Hell I am old enough to remember a time when teams wouldn't even let black QBs call audibles and would make every excuse to not let them call them. Or use excuses to not let them throw. To see kats like Dak, Patrick, Watson, Lamar and Winston (from an interceptions stand point and not being benched) being able to throw constantly and be surrounded by talent and coaching around their skills. Truly shows progress never seen the previous 99 years when it comes to black men playing QB in the racist NFL. It ain't equality but it is progress and nothing says progress than this season having a black QB MVP leading the league in TD passes. And a black QB leading the league in INTs (at 30) while never being benched.

Finally as far as mcnair...anyone that watched that brotha play in tennesee knows that Fisher fukked over his career. shyt even in the superbowl he went extra conservative and then asked McNair to save his ass after half time. That was the constant theme in Tennessee even as mcnair got older. Fisher would be extra conservative and then mcnair would have to pull a rabbit out of his hat to save fisher's ass.

And that ain't even talking about the millions in paycuts Steve took for the cheap ass team to keep the shyt ass playmakers they had or the OL players.

Thank god for Mike Heimerdinger being the offensive coordinator for the oilers from 2000 to 2004 or Mcnair may have truly had his talent sabatoged and wasted by that whore fisher.
 
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It’s age. I guarantee you people shytting on Marino never saw him play or got into football his last year or two. You can argue he’s the best ever. He would break the game with stats he’d put up in today’s pussified Nfl



Dude had some of the best feet inside a pocket. Meaning he was slow but could just do a side step to reload and get his pass off.

That achilles took a lot of that way.
 

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Best passer I’ve ever seen except for maybe Rodgers.

Can’t blame him for not having any rings because no QB who never had a consistent defense or running game does.

84 is still the most impressive QB season ever and it’s not even close.

I don't believe in holding championships against players in football. There are too many variables.

shyt how can anyone hold a championship against anyone in the AFC from 83 to 98. The NFC had shyt on lock. Plus during the 80s the NFC was sending either greatest of all time defenses, or greatest of all time offenses with great defenses. None of those AFC teams were even as complete as the NFC runner up.
 

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I don't believe in holding championships against players in football. There are too many variables.

shyt how can anyone hold a championship against anyone in the AFC from 83 to 98. The NFC had shyt on lock. Plus during the 80s the NFC was sending either greatest of all time defenses, or greatest of all time offenses with great defenses. None of those AFC teams were even as complete as the NFC runner up.
shyt....in the 80s, the NFC Championship was the defacto super bowl
 

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No answer. Im speaking specifics. It wasnt a well coached game either.

im speaking on this being a mark on Moon. Where did he fail? What did you see?

this is looking more and more like fake sports talk

To play devils advocate peyton has a 14-13 record in the playoffs and had 2 piss poor superbowl wins in that his stats sucked. Not to mentions another piss poor superbowl vs the hawks and an avg superbowl vs the siants. Moons issue was his coaching nor his defense rose to the occasion as peytons did in his two superbowl winning playoff runs.
 
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