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IR splinters the black community, drives self hate, and the like, so it does harm poor blacks. Look at LA with all its mixed breed people: blacks are worse off there than anywhere else. For most of black American history, we had very little IR compared to the rest of the Western world. That is how we have survived. The cacs were right when they outlawed miscegenation with blacks. It protected them -- and us.
breh arent you a caribbean breh that lives in canada
 

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Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity

Black poverty state to state... Hint... California isnt first.

California doesn't have to be first in the country to prove my point.

I
said that California is worse off for blacks than the Deep South, which is why blacks are leaving California. The chart proves I'm right as California has a higher black unemployment rate than all of the Deep South. I mean, the same chart could have said the opposite, but it didn't (because like I told you, this is common sense).

Moreover California's rate is artificially deflated for the numbers of blacks who leaving California whereas the Deep South's unemployment rate is artificially inflated for new arrivals.

This means that if said blacks stayed in California (because it's so great, right?) and didn't move to the South, California's unemployment rate would actually be higher than the amount it is now (which is already higher than the South's despite having an advantage in terms of migration).


Ir whitening is apples and oranges when it comes to natives vs blacks.

Why? The Natives no longer exist due to genocide (their men were killed) and race-mixing (their women were raped). That's whitening.

To imply all the mixed brazilins are whitened blacks is also utter bullshyt. You obviously dont know anything sbout argentina if you dont know about the mass italian immigration...

I never said "mixed brazilians are whitened blacks". Those are your words, not mine. I said that the black population was reduced and whitened due to IR. The fact the average Brazilian--a population of like 200 million--has black ancestry means that there had to be have been a large number of blacks to supplement all that mixing. This high IR rate coincides with the Black Brazilian's reduction in population, as it does everywhere and did in Argentina. Again: common sense.

The thing is in Latin America whitening was an official government policy whereas it was never one in America.

Whitening was indeed part of the USA's policy but only with respects to the Natives. Anti-IR (and so anti-whitening) was part of the USA's policy elsewise. It was to protect white's and it did. The side effect, of course, was that it also protected blacks. In Latin America, this was not the case, which is what we are talking about in the first place.

And the black population doubled after jim crow ended. Also the black population increased by a factor of 4 during the industrial revolution.

The black population doubled because of both anti-IR law and culture:

" Prior to the California Supreme Court's ruling in Perez v. Sharp (1948), no court in the United States had ever struck down a ban on interracial marriage. In 1967, the United States Supreme Court unanimously ruled in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation laws are unconstitutional, relying partially on Perez."

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Anti-IR laws were not abolished only like 50 years ago, well after Jim Crow. The policy fostered the culture which has led black Americans to where they are today.



Facts are a tricky thing breh.

Indeed, try accepting them.
 

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It proves that Ir mixing laws were not responsible for the growth of the black community, as stated by this dude. Now after all this mixing, blacks are at their highest percentage of the population since slavery.

No it doesn't. IR mixing laws were abolished in 1967 (like 30 years ago):

" In 1967, the United States Supreme Court unanimously ruled in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation laws are unconstitutional, relying partially on Perez."

By then the anti-IR policy was already entrenched in the culture and so both the policy AND the culture are partly responsible (along with, like, natural breeding and technological advancement) for the growth in the black community. Most everywhere on the planet where wenching and IR is commonplace, the black population barely or doesn't exist (i.e. Argentina and Mexico, which began as black colonies).

Blacks are most prominent, on the other hand, in places where IR was or is banned (i.e. USA) as well as in places where IR didn't happen due to numbers (i.e. Carribean). Of course, whites also benefitted from anti-IR too, as whites in Canada and America are the purest.

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My parents are cosmopolitan, I have dual citizenship and I have spent time in both upstate new york and canada.
Im guessing you were spelling caribbean and your spell check trolled you.

But black americans generally dont have family in canada.
Nor does simply being born in america and being of african descent ,make you BA/AA
 

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But if you're Black then your Black. You're on the same island as Haiti and separated by some invisible line. There are more Black people in "Latin America" than in the USA. Brasil has more Blacks than any other country except Nigeria. Colombia is 25% Black. There ARE whites in the Latin world, but Dominicans are not most of them. You can have 15 fuccin levels of color, but you're still a Spanish speaking Haitian. I'm not quite sure how you can't see that in the mirror? Pasados de esclavos. It is what it is. The non-Black Latinos will get that work all day every day and the self hating Black Latinos will also get that work. We don't care what KIND of ***** you ARE... But you're still a ****** that can speak really really awful Spanish.
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Why is it okay to call black women bed wenches here? My honest question about the scent of their vaginas is too offensive, but it's okay to call them wenches. Hmm.
 

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I really don't like bedwench being used on this site to describe a Black woman who dates white men....


This article reiterates that Black women were stolen, sold, held captive in the homes of slave owners and raped

The two are not conceptually congruent

And this is a woat thread title
That's the thing. Despite all of that we have black women now who willingly seek white boys. They epitomize the term even more so than the women who were forced to do it. Why cape for women like that?
 

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Im guessing you were spelling caribbean and your spell check trolled you.

But black americans generally dont have family in canada.
Nor does simply being born in america and being of african descent ,make you BA/AA

OK, so I guess guys like Kemba Walker and Antonio Cromartie (full Carribeans) aren't AA. Melo isn't full AA either. What's your point?
 

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OK, so I guess guys like Kemba Walker and Antonio Cromartie (full Carribeans) aren't AA. Melo isn't full AA either. What's your point?
they arent:yeshrug:

Its a specific ethnicity. If one parent is AA/BA than ok. But if your born to caribbean/african parents you are jamaican-american,haitian-american,nigerian-american so on and so forth. Most of these issues you and duke arguing about ,i.e "the deep south" deal with ba/AA's.
 

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OK, so I guess guys like Kemba Walker and Antonio Cromartie (full Carribeans) aren't AA. Melo isn't full AA either. What's your point?
they arent:yeshrug:

Its a specific ethnicity. If one parent is AA/BA than ok. But if your born to caribbean/african parents you are jamaican-american,haitian-american,nigerian-american so on and so forth. Most of these issues you and duke arguing about ,i.e "the deep south" deal with ba/AA's.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/opinion/vanessa-barbara-in-denial-over-racism-in-brazil.html




    • CONTRIBUTING OP-ED WRITER
      In Denial Over Racism in Brazil
      • Brazil.
        SÃO PAULO, Brazil — One Friday night last month, the electricity was off in the streets of Palmeirinha, a favela in Rio de Janeiro. Three black teenagers were joking around in front of their houses. One of them started to run and the others followed, laughing. At that moment, the police came out shooting. Chauan Jambre Cezário, 19 years old, was seriously wounded. Alan de Souza Lima, 15 years old, died on the site with a cellphone in his hands — he had caught everything on video, including his own last agonizing minutes.

        According to an official report released the next day, the boys were shot after a confrontation with the police. Officers allegedly found two guns at the scene and charged Mr. Cezário with resisting arrest. The boy, who sells iced tea on Ipanema Beach, was carried to the emergency room and handcuffed to the hospital bed.

        Days later, the nine-minute cellphone video went public. Images clearly show that the teenagers didn’t have any guns on them and that there was neither confrontation nor resistance. Seconds after the shooting, a policeman asked why they had been running, to which a bleeding Mr. Cezário answered: “We were just playing around, sir.”

        The charges have been dropped, but his experience, and the death of his younger friend, reflect a history of violence against young black men in Brazil.

        Afro-Brazilians — people who self-identify as black or brown — make up 53 percent of our population, a total of about 106 million individuals. It is the world’s largest black population outside Africa and the second largest after Nigeria. According to the United Nations Children’s Fund, black Brazilians ages 12 to 18 are almost three times more likely to get killed than their white counterparts, and a survey by the Brazilian Forum on Public Security found that black Brazilians accounted for 68 percent of all homicide victims.

        They are also more likely to be victims of police killings; a study by the University of São Carlos showed that 58 percent of all people killed in the state of São Paulo by the military police were black. They make up 62 percent of all people incarcerated nationwide.
 
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