New study shows 1/3 of all american adults under 30 are athiest

[newarkhiphop]

interesting

who's morals though?

A empires morals overall , i believe there is a correlation with a rise in morals and rise in nations status and vice verse, a decline in morals a decline in status

 

[Bud Bundy]

A empires morals overall , i believe there is a correlation with a rise in morals and rise in nations status and vice verse, a decline in morals a decline in status

could be never thought of it. My knee jerk reaction is to disagree but you have a very valid point.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Who still believes those ducktales?

 

[Fervid]

Religion is dying a slow, slow death in the west. It's all but dead already in Europe. We're just slow catching on because the US, for the most part, celebrates ignorance.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yea makes sense with the decline of this empire.

eh to me its less of a religious thing but more of a breakdown of morals first

Morals =/= religiosity.

(DV) Salisbury: Religion May Be Dangerous to Our Health

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...YHL0Gw&sig=AHIEtbSG50hepUXZkxmIIOP_gVgnDxVp9g

 

[newarkhiphop]

Morals =/= religiosity.

(DV) Salisbury: Religion May Be Dangerous to Our Health

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...YHL0Gw&sig=AHIEtbSG50hepUXZkxmIIOP_gVgnDxVp9g

lol look am not gonna argue religion with yall seeing at how some of the other arguments on here go , that's interesting article though, kids with religion get stds and those without it don't , no other social/economic factors at play, makes sense to me .

Like i said a empires decline is closely marked by the breakdown of its moral fiber , I believe that a person's faith or lack of it has a affect on there moral character ......

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

lol look am not gonna argue religion with yall seeing at how some of the other arguments on here go , that's interesting article though, kids with religion get stds and those without it don't , no other social/economic factors at play, makes sense to me .

Like i said a empires decline is closely marked by the breakdown of its moral fiber , I believe that a person's faith or lack of it has a affect on there moral character ......

You should probably read the study instead of attempting to simplify it to suit your strawman. That's not what it says. It was a 12 year long global study BY a religious university, so it's obviously not the work of biased atheists, and the hard statistical data shows that industrialized societies that have higher degrees of religiosity have higher rates of violence crime, suicide, STDs, teen pregnancies, etc.

Does that prove that religion causes those things? No. But it does prove that the argument that religion is necessary for morals, and that morals will decline without religion is complete bullshyt.

 

[Liu Kang]

New Report: ‘A Third of Adults Under 30 Have No Religious Affiliation’

Let us be free from the sacred

 

[newarkhiphop]

You should probably read the study instead of attempting to simplify it to suit your strawman. That's not what it says. It was a 12 year long global study BY a religious university, so it's obviously not the work of biased atheists, and the hard statistical data shows that industrialized societies that have higher degrees of religiosity have higher rates of violence crime, suicide, STDs, teen pregnancies, etc.

Does that prove that religion causes those things? No. But it does prove that the argument that religion is necessary for morals, and that morals will decline without religion is complete bullshyt.

I read it , he gives no reason, shoot the link your provided yourself says

Though Mr. Paul does not state the reasons for the disparity

So they do a study , they find this disparity in std rates between religious states and non religion states , yet for all there studies they really cant pin it directly to religion but can only postulate that it MIGHT be the cause? Or you gong to deny they said that?

Matter fact if you read that second link you provided which is a TRUE academic study of this study you will see were in the second page the authors themselves come to the conclusion that

It is the opinion of the authors that once all of the methodological issues are considered, Paul’s findings and conclusions are rendered ineffectual.

and them this ether as a conclusion

At the same time, however, its methodological problems do not
allow for any conclusive statement to be advanced regarding the various hypotheses Paul seeks to demonstrate or falsify. What one can state with certainty is that one cannot in any way be certain as to the effects of religiosity and secularism upon prosperous democracies at least as based upon the methods and data of Paul’s study.

That with out breaking down the huge methodical and other disparities that a study of that nature would have.

So if your were using these articles to help your argument friend YOU might want to fully read your sources beforehand, friend.




but like i said earlier am not here for a religious debate

 

[Turenne]

Like i said a empires decline is closely marked by the breakdown of its moral fiber , I believe that a person's faith or lack of it has a affect on there moral character ......

A supposed leftist saying shyt like this is

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I read it , he gives no reason, shoot the link your provided yourself says



So they do a study , they find this disparity in std rates between religious states and non religion states , yet for all there studies they really cant pin it directly to religion but can only postulate that i MIGHT be the cause? Or you gong to deny they said that?

Matter fact if you read that second link you provided which is a TRUE academic study of this study you will see were in the second page the authors themselves come to the conclusion that




and them this ether as a conclusion



That with out breaking down the huge methodical and other disparities that a study would have.

So if your were using these articles to help your argument friend YOU might want to fully read your sources beforehand, friend.




but like i said earlier am not here for a religious debate

@your reading comprehension. Read my previous post again:

You should probably read the study instead of attempting to simplify it to suit your strawman. That's not what it says. It was a 12 year long global study BY a religious university, so it's obviously not the work of biased atheists, and the hard statistical data shows that industrialized societies that have higher degrees of religiosity have higher rates of violence crime, suicide, STDs, teen pregnancies, etc.*Does that prove that religion causes those things? No. But it does prove that the argument that religion is necessary for morals, and that morals will decline without religion is complete bullshyt.

 

[newarkhiphop]

@your reading comprehension. Read my previous post again:

The link YOU provided found that the study which YOU provided had a invalid hypothesis and was full of methodical errors therefore making that whole study INVALID, therefore its not proving a dam thing.

 

[Juneya]

could be never thought of it. My knee jerk reaction is to disagree but you have a very valid point.

what about the economic boom after world war 2 or the affects of slavery on the economy

or the child labor of the industrial revolution in europe

 

[frush11]

And how many people participated in the survey, very people are truly atheist. I guarantee, most of them who claim atheist on that study will get married in a church.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

Religion is dying a slow, slow death in the west. It's all but dead already in Europe. We're just slow catching on because the US, for the most part, celebrates ignorance.

cuz WE'RE MURRRCANS