Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
Dems are out of touch, but folks are gonna be sorry when Trump let's Net and Yahoo do even worse than Biden, and it's not even broadcasted.
New poll shows 29% of voters who voted for Biden in ‘20 and didn’t for Kamala Harris in ‘24 say “ending lsrael’s violence in Gaza” was top issue
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ITS CALLED PRINCIPLE...
MAYBE THATS A NEW CONCEPT
TO SOME OF YALL.
MANY PPL KNOW TRUMP
AINT shyt BUT WASN'T
GOING TO KEEP THESE CLOWNS
IN OFFICE OFF PRINCIPLE
SO THE NEXT TIME AROUND
THEY WONT THINK THEY
CAN DO fukk shyt WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT
VOTE FOR KAMALA
DOESN'T MEAN YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP
There will not be a next time around. Democrats will lean more towards not caring (unfortunately) and moderate. They will win the next cycle too.
Having principles should require having a strategy as well. They had principle and zero strategy. They also conveniently and routinely avoid protesting Republicans who are now in power and also worse. So now make the lot worse for all. But hey, at least they have principles.
Givethanks
Superstar
What's crazy is this genocide has been going on before Oct 7, the only people you'd see protest were Muslims every summer and some weirdo conspiracy theorists handing out flyers about the connection between (Israel being the devil, aliens, the flat earth, and lizard people running the world govt) on Friday nights downtown.Trump gonna wipe out Palestine and none of them will protest.
If they had principles like that, they would protest Trump. But they won't.
I don't understand where was all this support 5 years ago, especially with how big the conflict is. It really feels like a third party has really been influencing/controlling everything.
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
Most of them fell for the misinformation and particularly on the issue of Palestine now Trump is blatantly saying he’s going to accelerate the ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
ITS CALLED PRINCIPLE...
MAYBE THATS A NEW CONCEPT
TO SOME OF YALL.
MANY PPL KNOW TRUMP
AINT shyt BUT WASN'T
GOING TO KEEP THESE CLOWNS
IN OFFICE OFF PRINCIPLE
SO THE NEXT TIME AROUND
THEY WONT THINK THEY
CAN DO fukk shyt WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT
VOTE FOR KAMALA
DOESN'T MEAN YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP
Plain stupidity at work here.
I would say that hopefully people who rely on these voters to win elections learned and will adopt the stances necessary to get these votes back.
But somehow I don't think this will happen and they'll just stupidly double down on it.
But somehow I don't think this will happen and they'll just stupidly double down on it.
quoting this tweet, 
"Anyone who sits out an election because of that is someone who we will never appease and if we did, we’d lose either way. They don’t know how to think two steps ahead. They made it worse for the people of Gaza"
"Anyone who sits out an election because of that is someone who we will never appease and if we did, we’d lose either way. They don’t know how to think two steps ahead. They made it worse for the people of Gaza"
Hacksaw Jim Thuggin
Superstar
actually
ITS CALLED PRINCIPLE...
MAYBE THATS A NEW CONCEPT
TO SOME OF YALL.
MANY PPL KNOW TRUMP
AINT shyt BUT WASN'T
GOING TO KEEP THESE CLOWNS
IN OFFICE OFF PRINCIPLE
SO THE NEXT TIME AROUND
THEY WONT THINK THEY
CAN DO fukk shyt WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT
VOTE FOR KAMALA
DOESN'T MEAN YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP
thats exactly what it means...
the irony is these will be the same ones crying about trump....
its already happening
KnickstapeCity
RIP Big Dikk :wow: :mjcry:
So they didn't vote for Kamala over some shyt that doesn't affect us here and that Trump wasn't gonna do anything about either?
By that same logic, why are we involved with Israel and Ukraine when it doesn’t affect us here? Fukk Kamala.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
So when he kicks people out of Gaza to build beach front trump towers…. Did these people win or lose?
No black history month this year…. But Ackbar gets a reprieve in the slaughter before phase 2 begins.
No black history month this year…. But Ackbar gets a reprieve in the slaughter before phase 2 begins.
“Top reason for 29% of non-voters that supported Biden.”
From 2020 to 2024, Democrats saw a staggering dropoff in support at the presidential level, with some 19 million people who voted for Joe Biden staying home (or not mailing in their ballots) in 2024. Now, a new survey conducted by YouGov suggests Biden’s support for Israel’s unrelenting assault on Gaza played a surprisingly large role in the choice of those previous Biden supporters not to vote. (Read the full poll here.)
The top reason those non-voters cited, above the economy at 24 percent and immigration at 11 percent, was Gaza: a full 29 percent cited the ongoing onslaught as the top reason they didn’t cast a vote in 2024.
Looking narrowly at states that swung from Biden in 2020 to Trump in 2024, the number is smaller. But in those states, 20 percent still cited Gaza as the reason they didn’t vote again. The poll was paid for by the Institute for Middle East Understanding Policy Project, which has been an outspoken critic of Israel’s assault on Gaza.
Before firmly demonstrating that Gaza cost Democrats the election, it’s important to keep a handful of caveats in mind. Even if October 7 and the resulting genocide had never happened, it’s fair to assume some number of those non-voters still would not have voted, and would have cited a different top reason for not voting. Citing a top reason for not voting is far different than it being the only reason not to vote.
And because the turnout drop off was smaller in swing states, Gaza may not have been decisive on its own. Whenever surveys confirm views we already hold, or tell us things we want to be true, it’s worth approaching their findings with increased skepticism. Still, even the most biased poll can only manufacture so much of a response. Even if the true numbers aren’t as stark as this survey found, it points in a clear direction: Biden’s ruthless support for Israel’s genocide, and the refusal of Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris to break with him, hurt her among voters who stayed home.
A previous survey, taken during the election by YouGov and also sponsored by Institute for Middle East Understanding Policy Project, found strong evidence that Harris would be significantly boosted by breaking with Biden on Gaza and applying real pressure on Israel. But Harris chose not to do so.
Breaking with Biden on Gaza could have had knock on effects elsewhere, as Harris never successfully answered a question that dogged her throughout her campaign: What would she have done differently than Biden? Or what would she do differently in the future?
Eventually, Harris settled on an unsatisfying answer. “My presidency will not be a continuation of Joe Biden’s presidency, and like every new president that comes into office, I will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas,” she said in one emblematic response. “Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” she said at the presidential debate. Yet, she had no answer for how they diverged, other than “And I am certainly not Donald Trump.” In an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, she reiterated these points, and followed with a gobbledygook response about American aspirations and opportunity and small businesses. In other high-profile interviews, she similarly declined to offer any answer as to what she would do differently, other than be a different person.
Of course, diverging from Biden on Gaza risked losing voters who supported his policy. But a close look at the survey suggests that risk was low compared to the potential reward. Voters who were with Biden in 2020 and stuck with Harris in 2024 were asked if breaking with him on Gaza would make them more or less enthusiastic about voting for Harris. By a 35 to 5 margin, they said doing so would have made them more enthusiastic to vote for her, with the remainder saying it would have made no difference.
Meanwhile, Democrats’ unshakable commitment to the war also blended with concerns that the party was not focused on issues that mattered to Americans, as I argued previously.
The survey showed that the issue of Gaza was most salient among white voters, 34 percent of whom said it was the top reason they didn’t vote for Harris, and Hispanic voters (27 percent), while less so with black voters (just 9 percent).
The issue factored most heavily in Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and less so in Pennsylvania (19 percent cited it as the top reason not to vote), Nevada, (13), and Georgia (6), according to the survey.
- Arizona: 38%
- Georgia: 6%
- Michigan: 32%
- Nevada: 13%
- Pennsylvania: 19%
- Wisconsin: 32%
Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows
Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.www.dropsitenews.com
It's not a coincidence that Netanyahu refused to agree to a cease-fire until a day before Trumps inauguration. Anyways, Bidens Israel policy was very bad, but the people who refused to vote for Kamala based on Gaza just handed Netanyahu free reign to do as he pleases and he is going to use it. Trump already argued for ethnically cleansing Palestinians.
the fact that people cant understand such a simple concept
ITS CALLED PRINCIPLE...
MAYBE THATS A NEW CONCEPT
TO SOME OF YALL.
MANY PPL KNOW TRUMP
AINT shyt BUT WASN'T
GOING TO KEEP THESE CLOWNS
IN OFFICE OFF PRINCIPLE
SO THE NEXT TIME AROUND
THEY WONT THINK THEY
CAN DO fukk shyt WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDNT
VOTE FOR KAMALA
DOESN'T MEAN YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP
quoting this tweet,
"Anyone who sits out an election because of that is someone who we will never appease and if we did, we’d lose either way. They don’t know how to think two steps ahead. They made it worse for the people of Gaza"
"Anyone who sits out an election because of that is someone who we will never appease and if we did, we’d lose either way. They don’t know how to think two steps ahead. They made it worse for the people of Gaza"
Ok, so if all of Gaza is rubble and hundreds of thousands killed and maimed, what PERCENTAGE of worse do you think it will be?
Becuase I think you guys really are retarded sometimes with this logic.
If the current status of Gaza is 100% Biden, even if Trump kicked everyone out of Gaza, it would barely break 120%.
THEY ARE ALL HOMELESS, DEAD, KIDS MUTILATED.
WTF could be worse than the CURRENT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION state?
I will not save the slave masters home just because the next slave master might be worse. I am punishing the person who directly benefits from my complicity.
Also, republicans LOST 3 million votes. Kamala lost 15 because she ran as a republican and also said "the one thing I would do different from Biden is I would put a republican in my cabinet, because I won't turn down good ideas."
SHE LOST
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
quoting this tweet,
"Anyone who sits out an election because of that is someone who we will never appease and if we did, we’d lose either way. They don’t know how to think two steps ahead. They made it worse for the people of Gaza"
Gaza was turned into a parking lot under Biden and Kamala. It can't get any worse. They dont have homes to go back to and barely got food or clean water. Western and libral media outlets just stopped reporting on the atrocities and protest going as the election neared. They blew up hospitals, schools, aid workers etc for the past year and a half with impunity.
