Netflix - Biggie: I Got a Story to Tell (Discussion Thread)

[DANJ!]

def agree with the editing/storyline part of it. It was strange how they seemed to jump around a fair bit, could have been handled better. It was good to see his mum finally admitting that he wasn’t good little choir boy she thought he was. Everything else I’ve seen of her it seems like she refuses to believe he did anything bad in his life or that everything was sweet as when he was growing up. Obviously his life wasn’t on some DMX shyt but it looks like he had it as hard as anyone else growing up in that area

I was reminded that he was only 24 when he died every time I remember BIG and PAC were only 24/25 it blows my mind how much they accomplished but also how much we missed out on as Hip Hop heads. I would like to see some video of him recording LAD tho, they obviously have footage lying around since D Roc said he carried it EVERYWHERE

She admitted that a long time ago... she had a book around 2006 or somethin' like that where she talked about that and said she was in the dark about a lotta shyt he did because he hid that from her... just like how he didn't want her to listen to his music and hear him cursing and talking about the stuff he was talkin' about. I get that tho', that's a different generation there- we grew up not wantin' our mothers to know the 'bad' side of us. Nowadays nikkas be on social media postin' about fukkin' and gettin' high, knowing their mother's on their page

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

RIP BIGGIE SMALLS

 

[Roovers410]

I think it focused on cats we don’t usually hear from. D Roc, 50 Grand, Easy Mo Be, even Puffy didn’t have that big of a role in this in screen. I think they didn’t want portray the usual fantasy and because they had access to the unseen footage they told more details of the younger days. They basically did LAD in the last few mins.

They spoke about leaving Kim out in the Hot 97 interview. It was her choice. They approached her...I thought everything was cool, but it seems it isn't.

Btw always talking about leaving Kim out. I never ever saw a Big Doc with Charlie Baltimore in it, while she was the one he was with at the end. I think its cool she is never on this, but respects the situation. Says a lot about her , because she could have milked it.

 

[re'up]

I just watched this, felt appropriate on the 9th. I haven't watched a hip hop documentary in awhile, and it's been 10 years since I saw "notorious", which was pretty average, but still hit a similar emotional cord. I was struck by how much I was moved by his Mom, and their relationship even though I know the stories inside and out. I did all the same shyt BIG did to his Mom as a kid. It was cool to see Chic De Ve, I immediately had the Junior Mafia "Murder Onze" ad lib playing in my mind. Also, funny to see Puff and some of his LA lingustics, like energy and frequency, but good to see at the same time.

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Annoying as fukk when that happens. We can talk about both these brothers without talking about the other.

Does a disservice to both their legacies and their lives as humans

Jay/Nas... Biggie/Pac... Bron/MJ/Kobe ... Floyd/


I hate how on every social media outlet a thread about one of them turns to a debate between their “adversary”. It’s not too hard to just appreciate ones greatness and not pit legends against each other every single time

 

[mson]

 

[Nomad1]

Nah bro. The first spark was Pac doing that Vibe interview from jail. And he was already in the media implicating Bad Boy or Big had some type of prior knowledge which we know wasn't true. That Vibe interview & then the lying afterwards started the whole mess. No one's leaving out details but some of you pro Pac guys forget those wild accusations caused the damage when he knew it wasn't true

I know what you mean by the Vibe interviews, but I feel like that was more directly at Henchmen and Haitian Jack moreso than Biggie and Puffy. If we're being real, Pac getting hit up in quad, hears who shot ya in the radio, and then gets no shoutouts or even acknowledgment from Biggie, who imo he really thought highly of, I cant really blame Pac for going hard at Biggie. Just like I understand why Biggie distanced himself from Pac's problems since the reason he got shot was NY politics, and Biggie still had family in Brooklyn.
But shots started flying first when DPG and Snoop got shot at, and that was Biggie's fault

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Site I co run is doing a poll today

‪Ready to Die is probably the 2nd most listened album in my lifetime. So I lean towards it...but The growth, maturity and refinement of BIG as an emcee In LAD was something unordinary.‬

 

[Spidey Man]

‪Ready to Die is probably the 2nd most listened album to in my lifetime. So I lean towards it...but The growth, maturity and refinement of BIG as an emcee In LAD was something unordinary.‬

Ready to die is a better album but life after Big was a better mc.

If Life After was the same length as Ready to Die it would easily be a better album.

 

[Renzo]

Let me add Pacs real issue was he felt Biggie was using his shooting as a come up.. They wanted people to think they might’ve been behind it or had something to do with it..they were doing the same thing after Pac died. Then Biggie gets on the fab 5 Freddy tapes talking crazy about how Pac was making movies.. ya man that just got robbed beat and shot who could’ve died is making movies? Pac was right to be mad..

I know what you mean by the Vibe interviews, but I feel like that was more directly at Henchmen and Haitian Jack moreso than Biggie and Puffy. If we're being real, Pac getting hit up in quad, hears who shot ya in the radio, and then gets no shoutouts or even acknowledgment from Biggie, who imo he really thought highly of, I cant really blame Pac for going hard at Biggie. Just like I understand why Biggie distanced himself from Pac's problems since the reason he got shot was NY politics, and Biggie still had family in Brooklyn.
But shots started flying first when DPG and Snoop got shot at, and that was Biggie's fault

 

[Cladyclad]

2pac was naive AF. Dude wanted to talk about a shooting over the phone

 

[old boy]

Soooo who's found that full freestyle over the Toto beat?




When that shyt hit...

that shyt was crack & from what i gather he was the one with the idea to even use the toto sample, as a kid no less. wow...

smh @ him acting brand new with puff years later though, talmbout you gon ruin my career with that mtume sample lmao. if someone exposed biggie and played this record for puff the nikka would have looked at big like nikka, you rhymed over 80's pop before i was even in the game fukk type of time you on


GOAT documentary already watched it 3 times

 

[How Sway?]

Didn't think i'd learn anything new in this doc but man was i wrong! Didn't realize BIG's pops was already married when he knocked up Ms. Wallace, kind of gave me this point of view of whether a wife should forgive her husband for impregnating another woman after the fact the kid turns out to be arguably the GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME. You never know what a kid that is born out of an affair could turn out to be

Also, O's story, you always knew he was the dude mentioned in BIG's credits as well as the song he did for him on LAD. This gave you a detailed insight of who he really was. I also appreciated them interviewing the jazz musician who was kind of in a way like a father figure to BIG. I love how he explained the way BIG learned how to flow based off the rhythm of drums and melodies. That is something you can teach the youth the basics of improving your flow .

I was shocked that Kim wasn't in this doc especially after the fact that she's squashed the beef with her and Cease.

I kind of feel the vibe that Ms Wallace is still p*ssed that BIG was a drug dealer and that she didn't figure it out till after he died as to how much he was moving. Seems like she holds a grudge on that more than the killers

I was caught off guard that they showed BIG's Grandma, i didn't even know he had one or was alive for that matter

This was a real good documentary on a deeper insight on BIG's life. It also makes me wonder how the kid that he made Kim abort would've turned out today

I have this deep feeling and always said he probably would've turned out as a great rapper as BIG was as opposed to CJ. Them side chick kids always have the most talent when the pop creeps, one of life's way to troll a cheating father

def agree with the editing/storyline part of it. It was strange how they seemed to jump around a fair bit, could have been handled better. It was good to see his mum finally admitting that he wasn’t good little choir boy she thought he was. Everything else I’ve seen of her it seems like she refuses to believe he did anything bad in his life or that everything was sweet as when he was growing up. Obviously his life wasn’t on some DMX shyt but it looks like he had it as hard as anyone else growing up in that area

I was reminded that he was only 24 when he died every time I remember BIG and PAC were only 24/25 it blows my mind how much they accomplished but also how much we missed out on as Hip Hop heads. I would like to see some video of him recording LAD tho, they obviously have footage lying around since D Roc said he carried it EVERYWHERE

Damn.

I mean, there's been several biggie documentaries so I figured this would be more of the same ole, but I might need to check this out

 

[Spidey Man]

that shyt was crack & from what i gather he was the one with the idea to even use the toto sample, as a kid no less. wow...

smh @ him acting brand new with puff years later though, talmbout you gon ruin my career with that mtume sample lmao. if someone exposed biggie and played this record for puff the nikka would have looked at big like nikka, you rhymed over 80's pop before i was even in the game fukk type of time you on


GOAT documentary already watched it 3 times

Puff gonna be cursing him out just like momma wallace did in the doc

 

[LevelUp]