Nestle Chairman: Water is Not a Human Right, That's Extremist, Privatization is Best

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You're the idiots that would have followed hitler to the End. You're the people who worship government like a god, and see it as an answer to all of our problems in the world.

They're are people on this site who rightful question anything that is related to the government. Sure, a lot of it is Alex Jones non-sense, but at least they question the government. How are they treated on this site?

You, The Coli Leftist Cabal, Attack anyone who questions government. I have seen the words, "Learn to trust your government" typed on this site and on KTL 100's of times. I have seen Drone attacks legitimized on this site, I have seen the Killing of united states citizen without a trial justified on this site. These same leftists government dikk suckers have the nerve to say that I would follow Hitler until the end?

Look at how you idiots blindly follow Obama. I was a loud and proud critic of George W Bush, Ron Paul and anyone else--it's all electronically documented.

You're the people that would sell out your neighbors to the KGB, the Khmer rouge, pr the gestapo. I would be the one giving my life for the resistance. That's the bottom line period.

I have too...from you. I distinctly remember you expressing praise for the Al-Alawki killing and adding that you would've used drones to kill the Black Panthers if you were President and drones were around in the 60's.

I know you have some brain chemistry issues, but try to keep it consistent.

 

[the mechanic]

He's absolutely right.


Look at "Public" bodies of water and then look a private ones.

Most of the pollution in those waters is a result of capitalism with industries dumping waste to save money and overproducing soon to be obsolete garbage and fancy plastic packaging

In public bodies of water, we find overfishing, dumping, disease, unpleasant conditions, and all around dirty and unsanitary water.

In privately owned or privately run lakes (like Lake Comanche in California), the conditions are pristine.

Public owned means Government owned so in a sense those bodies are private too..theyre just owned by a group of people who dont give a fukk they just put the word public to fool people.

Dont forget the water was pristine when the natives ran this...

water Resources should be owned and operated by private citizens. That's the only way to insure an efficient output of water. Government production functions have never provided a efficient nor an abundant output of goods. That has never happened in the history of Mankind.

You think youre speaking from a libertarian perspective but you actually represent a corporate elite perspective..Some small water bodies could be privately owned but the larger ones should belong to the people who live around them

Just recently, I heard a special about Chinese Cities featured on NPR. In the piece, the narrator commented that private Chinese firms always seems to do better job at planning and operating property. All government created cities were nearly empty.

The same chinese firms have worse human rights records than most latin american dictators ......the same firms when faced with rising suicide rates from employees instead of making life less hellish for the workers did this instead

suicide nets



These are the sociopaths we should trust with the 2nd most important need for living

 

[FluffyCorleone]

LMAOOO @ suicide nets

wow

 

[Serious]

his is due to Nestlé’s aggressive lobbying to get women to stop breastfeeding – which is free and healthy – and use infant formula (sold by Nestlé) instead. Nestlé has lobbied governments to tell their health departments to promote formula.

Was I the only one who caught this?

Idk how anyone cant see this company is full of shyt after trying campaign for this.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

I have too...from you. I distinctly remember you expressing praise for the Al-Alawki killing and adding that you would've used drones to kill the Black Panthers if you were President and drones were around in the 60's.

I know you have some brain chemistry issues, but try to keep it consistent.

I didn't praise the killing of Al-alawki. I don't know where you got that from. The Black Panthers were communist terrorist organization. I was never a fan. I did tie that into the drone attacks to provoke you people, but sarcasm and satire seems to go over your head a lot.

 

[Nintendough]

Corporate sociopaths...they literally want to buy us.

 

[The Real]

Was I the only one who caught this?

Idk how anyone cant see this company is full of shyt after trying campaign for this.

It's very convenient. Aside from Nestle causing death and disease by coercing people into buying and using their formula instead of breastfeeding in places where there's no clean water to mix with it, they can also sell their own bottled water in those same places as an alternative to the dirty local water for those who can afford to buy it on a regular basis.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Most of the pollution in those waters is a result of capitalism with industries dumping waste to save money and overproducing soon to be obsolete garbage and fancy plastic packaging


Public owned means Government owned so in a sense those bodies are private too..theyre just owned by a group of people who dont give a fukk they just put the word public to fool people.

Dont forget the water was pristine when the natives ran this...


You think youre speaking from a libertarian perspective but you actually represent a corporate elite perspective..Some small water bodies could be privately owned but the larger ones should belong to the people who live around them


The same chinese firms have worse human rights records than most latin american dictators ......the same firms when faced with rising suicide rates from employees instead of making life less hellish for the workers did this instead

suicide nets



These are the sociopaths we should trust with the 2nd most important need for living

all that garbage in the Manilla rivers are from the corporations? The Fecal matter in the Ganges is from Corporations?

Tragedy of the commons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In economics, the tragedy of the commons is the depletion of a shared resource by individuals, acting independently and rationally according to each one's self-interest, despite their understanding that depleting the common resource is contrary to the group's long-term best interests. In 1968, ecologist Garrett Hardin explored this social dilemma in "The Tragedy of the Commons", published in the journal Science.[1]

The tragedy of the commons will happen anywhere there is a public or shared good.




Suicide nets? If people are being forced to work somewhere, then that's not capitalism. If they aren't being forced, then the alternative to not working in the factories must be far worse.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

It's very convenient. Aside from Nestle causing death and disease by coercing people into buying and using their formula instead of breastfeeding in places where there's no clean water to mix with it, they can also sell their own bottled water in those same places as an alternative to the dirty local water for those who can afford to buy it on a regular basis.

Coercing people to buy their formula? Are serious? The only agency that coerces anyone to use formula is the WIC program. They tie monetary benefits to a nutritional standard.

Nestle doesn't have a band of goons that beats anyone that uses natural breast milk. I think your definition of coercion is distorted.

 

[Slystallion]

probably not a great pr move...

water is pretty essential to life...for the most part yes it takes work to have clean drinkable water available and whether it be through privatization or the local governments providing some sort of acces is essential to a society that wouldn't be in chaos or ruin

He is better off trying to market to locales that don't have essentials that other nations have and provide it at a cheaper price...i forgot what company has done that in africa and provided things like toothpastes and soap at a very affordable price for those that live within those nations and yet still are able to profit

 

[The Real]

Coercing people to buy their formula? Are serious? The only agency that coerces anyone to use formula is the WIC program. They tie monetary benefits to a nutritional standard.

Nestle doesn't have a band of goons that beats anyone that uses natural breast milk. I think your definition of coercion is distorted.

Yes, coercing people to buy their formula through lobbying, free trial scams, deceit, and misinformation using local governments. It's absolutely coercion when you are bombarded with a strategic campaign of lies that makes it seem like you only really have one choice if you want optimal health for your child.

Nestle does indeed use "bands of goons" for a variety of purposes, especially in their factories and their related communities in poor countries. You clearly don't know a lot about the company's history.

 

[theworldismine13]

Hmm I wouldnt say I agree but it seems he was just making a theoretical argument, in reality water is not a right and it has never been a right, so I'm not sure what is the point of vociferously disagreeing with him or why he even brought it up

A lot of you are caught up in words, you can argue that water is right, thats fine, but what does that mean? thats a meaningless assertion

I'm not aware of anywhere in the world where water is a right, water rights is actually tied to property rights and the government or private entities can own it

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Yes, coercing people to buy their formula through lobbying, free trial scams, deceit, and misinformation using local governments. It's absolutely coercion when you are bombarded with a strategic campaign of lies that makes it seem like you only really have one choice if you want optimal health for your child.

Nestle does indeed use "bands of goons" for a variety of purposes, especially in their factories and their related communities in poor countries. You clearly don't know a lot about the company's history.

If the governments are being bought out, then that is not capitalism that is Mercantilist arrangement that I don't advocate at all.


It's not absolute coercion if Nestle has an effective marketing campaign. If people aren't being forced by gunpoint or a whip to buy Nestle products, then I don't see it as coercion.

 

[thekingsmen]

probably not a great pr move...

Again you act like he is the only one with this mindset..he isn't alone. He doesn't care about what people think or their lives and doubt very highly that people will stop buying his products.

 

[The Real]

Hmm I wouldnt say I agree but it seems he was just making a theoretical argument, in reality water is not a right and it has never been a right, so I'm not sure what is the point of vociferously disagreeing with him or why he even brought it up

The point of disagreeing with him, imo, is that you don't need to believe water is a human right to understand that it's not an extremist idea to consider total privatization wrong. And he brought it up as part of a way to smear people who are opposed to privatization by lumping them in one category and painting them with a broad brush in an effort to try and hide the vast amount of space between the two arguments in which many reasonable positions could exist. In addition, maybe water should be a right in some sense... that argument hasn't really been fleshed out, and there are a number of positions which could exist there, too, but again, he wants to try and prevent that from happening.

A lot of you are caught up in words, you can argue that water is right, thats fine, but what does that mean? thats a meaningless assertion

That depends. To call it a human right, I agree, is somewhat meaningless. But to make it a right in particular legal contexts is not.

I'm not aware of anywhere in the world where water is a right, water rights is actually tied to property rights and the government or private entities can own it

Maybe, but government owning something and making it public is very different from private notions of property. It's not useful to lump them together under property for the sake of this argument.