@neotheflyingone why are you voting for Donald Trump in 2024??

[Rell84shots]

If racist white men hate a white man he can't be that bad

And you think that you're intelligent enough to speak on politics?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

I guess you wanted me to vote for him just cause he was black huh?

I did, and am not ashamed to admit it.
How am I gonna tell my children that I voted for some ancient cac over a half black man?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I did, and am not ashamed to admit it.
How am I gonna tell my children that I voted for some ancient cac over a half black man?

I have no issue saying it. Comes out just as good in real life as it did when I typed it on the coli

 

[karim]

Well why is it that the coli spends most of their time saying that Obama was a terrible president who didn't do anything?

Let's unpack this.

Because you're arguing my point now, which is that Obama was one of the greatest presidents in the history of America.

People bashing Obama on the coli are either undercover cacs or faux militants with extremely limited understanding of politics. But that doesn't mean that there are no problems with his presidency.

Barack campaigned as a left wing revolutionary, but governed as a centrist technocrat. His presidency was the last chance to fix what is wrong with america before it was too late and would result in the social collapse we are witnessing right now (well maybe Sandars winning the democratic nomination in 2016 might have been the truly last chance, but we won't know since he didn't).Obama blew it. Part of him blowing it had to do with the republican politics of obstruction, but Obama failing to understand that centrist neoliberal technocracy and incremental progressivism had run it's course with the financial meltdown of 2008 had a lot to do with it as well.

But we didn't know that Obama would blow it in 2008. We didn't really know that he blew it in 2016, we just know that in retrospect, by analyzing what got us into the mess we are in right now.

So anyways, I'm not arguing your point, and I'm not even trying to shyt on you for voting McCain. What I'm arguing is that there were a lot more reasons to vote for Obama in 2008 than him being black and I don't think that he would have gotten anywhere near the presidency, if that wouldn't have been the case. Him being black might have mobilized the black vote, but it was an obstacle with damn near any other demographic.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

People bashing Obama on the coli are either undercover cacs or faux militants with extremely limited understanding of politics. But that doesn't mean that there are no problems with his presidency.

Barack campaigned as a left wing revolutionary, but governed as a centrist technocrat. His presidency was the last chance to fix what is wrong with america before it was too late and would result in the social collapse we are witnessing right now (well maybe Sandars winning the democratic nomination in 2016 might have been the truly last chance, but we won't know since he didn't).Obama blew it. Part of him blowing it had to do with the republican politics of obstruction, but Obama failing to understand that centrist neoliberal technocracy and incremental progressivism had run it's course with the financial meltdown of 2008 had a lot to do with it as well.

But we didn't know that Obama would blow it in 2008. We didn't really know that he blew it in 2016, we just know that in retrospect, by analyzing what got us into the mess we are in right now.

So anyways, I'm not arguing your point, and I'm not even trying to shyt on you for voting McCain. What I'm arguing is that there were a lot more reasons to vote for Obama in 2008 than him being black and I don't think that he would have gotten anywhere near the presidency, if that wouldn't have been the case. Him being black might have mobilized the black vote, but it was an obstacle with damn near any other demographic.

You're still arguing my points. I agree with everything except your issues with him being a "centrist technocrat".

I've spent the last couple years working in politics and what I find is that people that are on the outside looking in often try to hold a political leader to a certain ideology, not realizing that once the candidate is in office, his ideology no longer matters.

Once he or she is in office, they have to deal with a very real set of circumstances that there are no easy options to solve. And they have to realistically do what they can to both safeguard and advance the interests of this nation.

For instance, the far left has an issue with Obama letting the drones fly in the middle east.

I don't believe in war but I recognize that it is a very real option that sometimes HAS to be utilized no matter what. I think Obama always had his roots grounded in left wing revolution. Its just that at the end of the day, he had to make a decision:

"Do I strike and take out this person that is a very clear and present danger to the US while also taking what could be innocent lives? Or do I let them strike the US first and risk a 9/11 or a world trade bombing incident, which would take a lot of American lives?"

I don't see how there's an easy answer to that question. Its easy for you and I to sit on the sidelines and excoriate him for the decisions he made while we have none of the responsibility he had, nor the information he had.

The way I see it, he kept his word. He got Bin Laden, and he implemented an extreme downscale of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. By the time obama left office, both those wars were over.

Now could he have done things differently?

I often wonder what a full on Obama presidency would have looked like, with a cooperative congress that wasn't consumed by racism. Maybe if Obama had been able to operate as freely as all other presidents, we would have gotten an end to the neoliberalism and progressivism.

But instead what we got was a president who faced a very unfair sort of circumstances, much like you, me and any other black person trying to operate in this country under the thumb of institutional racism.

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

They may not be the majority but there’s to damn many

Get over it. You’re around people you disagree with politically every day

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

hahaha wouldn't expect less from a mentally ill troll who thought "blackmail" was a racist term. You and your conspiracy dap pal should look into the context of things

Swing and a miss, Nicholas

 

[karim]

You're still arguing my points. I agree with everything except your issues with him being a "centrist technocrat".

I've spent the last couple years working in politics and what I find is that people that are on the outside looking in often try to hold a political leader to a certain ideology, not realizing that once the candidate is in office, his ideology no longer matters.

Once he or she is in office, they have to deal with a very real set of circumstances that there are no easy options to solve. And they have to realistically do what they can to both safeguard and advance the interests of this nation.

For instance, the far left has an issue with Obama letting the drones fly in the middle east.

I don't believe in war but I recognize that it is a very real option that sometimes HAS to be utilized no matter what. I think Obama always had his roots grounded in left wing revolution. Its just that at the end of the day, he had to make a decision:

"Do I strike and take out this person that is a very clear and present danger to the US while also taking what could be innocent lives? Or do I let them strike the US first and risk a 9/11 or a world trade bombing incident, which would take a lot of American lives?"

I don't see how there's an easy answer to that question. Its easy for you and I to sit on the sidelines and excoriate him for the decisions he made while we have none of the responsibility he had, nor the information he had.

The way I see it, he kept his word. He got Bin Laden, and he implemented an extreme downscale of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. By the time obama left office, both those wars were over.

Now could he have done things differently?

I often wonder what a full on Obama presidency would have looked like, with a cooperative congress that wasn't consumed by racism. Maybe if Obama had been able to operate as freely as all other presidents, we would have gotten an end to the neoliberalism and progressivism.

But instead what we got was a president who faced a very unfair sort of circumstances, much like you, me and any other black person trying to operate in this country under the thumb of institutional racism.

I have a degree in political sciences and work in international relations, I understand all the restraints he faced. Which is also why I say we didn't know that Obama blew it in 2016. We thought that his presidency was exactly that: An ambitious campaign faced with the realities of day to day politics. But in retrospect it turns out that no, Obamas presidency was a decisive moment in history that didn't live up to what it needed to be to avoid catastrophe. As an example, Nevile Chamberlains politics of appeasement might have looked like a sensible diplomatic attempt to avoid war in the 1930, but looking back at it in 1945 it turned out to be a horrible miscalculation with catastrophic consequences. What counts is the outcome, and as much as it pains me to say it, judged by it's outcome, Obamas presidency was a failure.

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

Is it safe to say this thread backfired

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I have a degree in political sciences and work in international relations, I understand all the restraints he faced. Which is also why I say we didn't know that Obama blew it in 2016. We thought that his presidency was exactly that: An ambitious campaign faced with the realities of day to day politics. But in retrospect it turns out that no, Obamas presidency was a decisive moment in history that didn't live up to what it needed to be to avoid catastrophe. As an example, Nevile Chamberlains politics of appeasement might have looked like a sensible diplomatic attempt to avoid war in the 1930, but looking back at it in 1945 it turned out to be a horrible miscalculation with catastrophic consequences. What counts is the outcome, and as much as it pains me to say it, judged by it's outcome, Obamas presidency was a failure.

What are you basing the failure on exactly? Maybe that's our disconnect in this conversation. I don't know what you count as failure.

You said neoliberalism wasn't defeated. My answer to that would be that neoliberalism is indeed down for the 8 count. We are being governed by perhaps the strictest conservative ideology in 50 years. Look at the country. The right is getting everything out of Trumps presidency that they could ever hope for, especially with all of the judicial appointees he's had in the lower courts, and this is without the increasing possibility that he will be appointing another conservative judge to the Supreme Court.

Conservatives are winning right now. What actually astounds me is the fact that they haven't started a war yet, even with all of Trumps Saber rattling across the pacific and the middle east. (We still have time tho )

And you better believe that if he gets another 4 years, war is coming. I don't know when and where, but its coming.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Is it safe to say this thread backfired

It happens. Sometimes trannies have performance issues just like regular brehs


Or so I hear


Only tranny I've ever talked to is the one in this thread

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Its like Lauryn Hill said... how you gon win when you ain't right within?

That man went through 6 years worth of my posts trying to find something anything he could make stick and couldn't do it

Out of all the ppl that commented in here, nobody expended that time of energy but him.

If he's like that on the coli, can you imagine what kind of life he's living on the streets? Sad

Nothing worse than having a stalker that doesn't have a life on your ass. You be happy af when they find someone else to be obsessed over. You feel sorry for that new person that befriends them tho because it's only a matter of time before they go bad on them too

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

And you think that you're intelligent enough to speak on politics?

I know I'm more intelligent than you and could beat you in a debate on politics if you don't share my views about this election but that's not saying much.

 

[Don Homer]

I hope someone screenshot what this c00n agent motherfukka said right here for future reference, because you know the PTB like to protect him and if this statement doesn’t show what type of time he’s on then y’all are sleep ^^^

he's asian

 

[Don Homer]

This white @neotheflyingone likes starting threads on covid related deaths - especially around April

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/a-g...for-covid-19-after-a-wedding-in-india.790271/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/one...staceys-mom-has-just-died-from-corona.770286/

so his “cousin died” a few weeks after April - but he’s posting up a thread a few weeks before that
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/one...staceys-mom-has-just-died-from-corona.770286/


But at the same time, he watching page views and statistics for popularity purposes instead of mourning in his alleged grief??






then a few months after that- he claims someone texted him that someone local that he knows died
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/yal...nstream-news-righ.784002/page-2#post-37878871

April 2nd he says this

Then he claims that his cousin died on April 30th .. hmmm. Lot of coincidences.

and ummm, might as well drop this that I picked up on before with him-


shyt is cringe coming from a McCain supporter even if he was being “sarcastic”

dude should be permabanned 4 this