Negro League stats to be officially integrated into MLB Database on Wednesday

[BigMoneyGrip]

A lot of the great white hops stats gonna start looking funny in the light

 

[Rekkapryde]

Shout J Gibbs

Gotta get a Jersey asap

 

[CROM]

First saw this on Bleacher Report IG page and half the comments are 20 something year old mediocre cacs crying about "well include the Japanese League Stats then" or "Well I guess they should include my pickup league stats" or "Is NFL gonna include CFL stats then?"




White Tears>>>>>>>

They don’t want that to happen. Then Ichiro would be the hit king instead of Rose.

 

[Cladyclad]

They don’t want that to happen. Then Ichiro would be the hit king instead of Rose.

mlb would love to do that lol

 

[Hey_zeus]

You love to see it

 

[Windows 91]

Progress

 

[Professor Emeritus]

nah

As result of Wednesday's integration, Negro Leagues legend Josh Gibson is now the all-time leader in career batting average (.372, beating out Ty Cobb's .366), slugging percentage (.718, beating out Babe Ruth's .690), and OPS (1.177, beating out Ruth's 1.164). Gibson is also the new single-season leader in those categories. The new single-season leaderboards:

BATTING AVERAGE	SLUGGING PERCENTAGE	OPS
1. Josh Gibson: .446 in 1943	1. Josh Gibson: .974 in 1937	1. Josh Gibson: 1.474 in 1931
2. Charlie Smith: .451 in 1929	2. Mule Stuttes: .898 in 1927	2. Josh Gibson: 1.435 in 1943
3. Hugh Duffy: .440 in 1898	3. Josh Gibson: .871 in 1943	3. Barry Bonds: 1.421 in 2004

that racist cac ty cobb

I was so fukking happy when I saw it was Ty Cobb who was getting passed up.

 

[FreshAIG]

why is Lebron being mentioned in a fukking baseball thread?

motherfukker if I bat .400 in 162 games and another motherfukker bat .420 in 50 games they should not be the
leader in batting avg.

I agree. It should at least be a minimum amount of at bats or innings pitched to qualify for stats like OBP, Slugging, ERA, etc..

 

[staticshock]

You put your foot in your mouth, this is the main reason why I asked that question.

Selective.

Edit: I knew my question was hit a nerve with you considering you had to use foul language.

I mean he kinda has a point

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The problem with the stats is they are incomplete

That's what I was wondering too, but:

Thorn estimated that about 75 percent of all Negro Leagues box scores have been documented, and that MLB would update the records as more are uncovered.

That's better than I thought it would be.



And to @Cladyclad

Those shorter official seasons, MLB noted in a release announcing the change, naturally lead to some “leaderboard extremes”. But the league verified a 60-game season during the COVID-19 pandemic, and with that as a recent precedent, Thorn said, it made sense to also verify Negro League seasons.

“The irregularity of their league schedules, established in the spring but improvised by the summer, were not of their making but instead were born of MLB’s exclusionary practices,” MLB said in the release.

The committee used the same statistical minimums for Negro League leaders as it does for the American and National Leagues: 3.1 plate appearances or 1 inning pitched per scheduled team game. The scheduled games range from 26 (Negro American League, 1942) to 91 (Negro National League I, 1927).

“Critics will say, ‘Well, (Gibson) only played against other Black teams,’” Lester said. “Well, Babe Ruth never hit a home run off a Black pitcher, and Josh Gibson never hit a home run off a white pitcher. So I guess my point is, the amount of melanin or the lack thereof does not indicate the greatness of a ballplayer.”

 

[Nostalgic]

I mean he kinda has a point

A contradictory point.

 

[Rev]

 

[Elim Garak]

This is beautiful.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I agree. It should at least be a minimum amount of at bats or innings pitched to qualify for stats like OBP, Slugging, ERA, etc..

Read the quotes - they have minimum at-bats and innings pitched to qualify, but they're pro-rated depending on the length of the known season. And some of those seasons, we don't have stats for every game.

Just like they count the shortened Covid season (just 60 games) in the record books, there's precedent for counting a season by pro-rating it.

 

[Art Barr]

Wow.


Awesome actual progress.
Actual change.


Art Barr