NBA TRADE HEADLINE : WIGGINS FOR LOVE = CONCLUSION STOOPIDEST TRADE IN NBA HISTORY
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
You must think golden state would have originally beat bron and Wiggins.
when Wiggins had already singlehandedly beaten the original finalist 73 warriors.
including created the rubric for beating them under duress in ot.
Yet here you nikkaz in here telling me.
a team with kyrie, bron and Wiggins was losing and no one was beating that team.
I enjoy watching you nikkaz be wrong.
I know you nikkaz never been around winning and I know y'all not winners.
Art Barr
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
well, why dont the effort on defense start with the damn star......goofy ass nikkascoring 20pts dont mean shyt if you getting exposed on defense...he doesnt need that much help in the East, he needed a lil more in the Finals against the Warriors ONLY goofy ass nikka...
KRiLL (+)
Yo! Ho! Ho!
a nikka can play good defense the whole game but a couple possessions & you dumb mfers think its the whole game... try having an original thought goofy ass nikka...well, why dont the effort on defense start with the damn star......goofy ass nikka
Art, please actually SAY something, because I don't even see a point to argue against.
The truth is that AFTER Wiggins' last college game, you saw him crumble and questioned his heart and whether he was really all that good. Now you're talking about a 19-year-old teenager being the lynchpin to a dynasty when after four years he still hasn't shown he can be a successful 3rd option....and ignoring that even YOU saw the drawbacks and questions back then.
In fact, when did LeBron EVER lose to anyone other than a great team good enough to beat other title teams?
The truth is that AFTER Wiggins' last college game, you saw him crumble and questioned his heart and whether he was really all that good. Now you're talking about a 19-year-old teenager being the lynchpin to a dynasty when after four years he still hasn't shown he can be a successful 3rd option....and ignoring that even YOU saw the drawbacks and questions back then.
When did LeBron ever turn 20-point scorers into Smush Parker? Did LeBron lose in the 1st round and I missed it?
In fact, when did LeBron EVER lose to anyone other than a great team good enough to beat other title teams?
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
and you try being a damn man instead of running in here like a cheer leading fakkit who needs a father figure so you want to argue with disrespect on a social media board to protect a damn man you never met in your damn life. i dont go around with disrespect trying to protect men i never met. you sound like a effeminate fukk boy. man the fukk up and stop taking criticism of lebron so damn personal........goofy ass nikka.a nikka can play good defense the whole game but a couple possessions & you dumb mfers think its the whole game... try having an original thought goofy ass nikka...
Wiggins is mediocre. You either don't watch the Wolves or talking out your ass. Terrible defender, gives minimum effort and is taking more shots than KAT for some reason when KAT is a way better offensive player.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
So if you are asking these quesrions,...
then you factually admit in some way that lebron is not able to galvanize and amplify a unit.
Especially one in which the most pedigreed talent of the Gen is at the position.
So either you are admitting lebron can never create his own so called pippen.
to go along with kyrie and remain harmonious as a successful championship unit.
Including, also admitting that when lebron had the keys to the franchise.
Bron in simple comparison is basically no different from Homer Simpson running his brother's car company and design wing.
into the ground, and also will not amplify the play of actualized pedigreed talent.
so, kyrie hit the shot that made bron a home state legend in Cleveland from akron.
Yet in false narrative based fashion takes full credit over kyrie who matched lebron in play as his own actualized lone talent in game and under the most duress in the field of play.
It is not that hard to ascertain given the fact lebron ruined a four peat.
Plus, what took place and also created the very nba nemesis.
whom if said trade never occurs.
Is at best a hometown loser turns good but not good enough repeat finalist.
On the level of the Buffalo Bills failed superb owl chances.
Lebron orchestrating and never vouching for wiggins and being pro positive for the trade for love.
Created why he will never be the goat.
unless he actually continues his sabotage of Dan Gilbert coming back and leaving narrative for the letter after the decision to go to Miami and then come back.
At the end of the day this false narrartive of some fake Bron orchestrated corporate admin coup of the quicken mogul is the fake end factor.
Yet, if Bron now does not move forward and make the warriors his destination moving forward. He will never guarantee on paper he is capable of being fake goat.
to mask this socalled passive aggressive creating and executing admin coup moguL if spited.
Art Barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Which exposes lebron is not goat and is not even capable of creating his own pippen.
If what you are saying is and it is welled in fact.
then Lebron potentially to top tier talent is not capable of galvanizing and ramping play.
Not to mention,..
if Bron is paired in triple unit with a superstar backcourt with one player matching him in physical dimensions and explosive leaping power or pop/bounce.
If that is true and rang true since the loss to the spurs in the finals.
through every subsequent finals trip to losing to the spus again.
The actual trend that tings true is lebron can not galvanize lesser pedigreed talent.
yet similar pedigress talent of the same generational ilk like wiggins is would still not need bron to galvanize him. Ala kyrie did not need bron to uptick or ramp his play to close the finals.
So, either way you try to go in the argument.
Lebron still never vouched for the actual player that would have potentially resulted in a four peat in Cleveland.
by trading away wiggins on paper you disturbed an actual four peat with the most pedigreed backcourt in NBA history.
At the end of the day,...I win like I said I was when this dumb ass stoopidest trade in NBA history occurred.
Art Barr
Art, this isn't NBA 2k. Lebron can't just take Wiggins' physical attributes and then make him a star like he was in create-a-player mode.
MJ couldn't do that either. If he could have, then what happened to Kwame Brown?
MJ couldn't do that either. If he could have, then what happened to Kwame Brown?
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
This is a complete false equivalence, to Wiggins. As you cherry picked completely far and away from the relevant talking point of Jordan's playing career in question. If you post a question in that realm. I can easily just disqualify LeBron simple as that. I think you LeBron fans keep grasping shorter straws and deflecting. All because one you never saw the best skill and in game player of all time Jordan play. So you have no real frame of reference. Plus you don't really know the game of basketball historically at all. In any context from the bird misappropriation of bill Russell from the Boston and eastern seaboard media. To falsely crown bird over the real social and sporting impact of Russell as a celtic. So, even you trying to deflect in any way shows you don't know the argument or even how it arose. Plus why it is so asinine for anyone to compare LeBron to Jordan. When Jordan was infinitely better as a skill player and in game player wholeheartedly than any player whom ever played basketball. You failed moving the goal posts there breh. Nice failing move to expose you and the rest of the contingent for not knowing what you are talembout.
While deflecting away from simple math like 1.000 is greater than. whatever percent 3-6 definitively is.
Brown has no context in this comparison. As in that era Jordan was a former exec who took the league minimum for personal reason to shield himself financially from divorce. Not to mention, just even making this comparison shows the complete lack of wherewithal to the argument and just gross deflection. That offers no context to their argument. As Jordan worked up, three all star from rookies in grant, Armstrong, and pip to champions. Where are LeBron worked up talent whom he ramped. That is a contextual question that has relevence to LeBron and mj. As LeBron has never done this for any player in a ramp up based setting. Nor has he ramped said player into an all star and champion as well. So to even pose this question is silly and offers no upside to bron in comparison. Where I really know you have no factual basis in this argument to even pose the question.
In short you and the Cleveland bron fan contingent never know wtf you are talembout.
Art barr
Wrong. And you don't show that anywhere.
Wrong, that happened during Jordan's playing career. Are we saying now that only certain Jordan years count and not others?
That doesn't make any sense.
You're mixing metaphors. And if you claim that LeBron had a duty which and power that no superstar has ever had, it's not deflecting for me to simply point out that MJ couldn't do it either.
False, I've been watching Jordan since 1987, when everyone thought he was incapable of elevating his team and was being accused of not being a real leader. It wasn't until Phil Jackson came on that the Bulls gelled like that and the rest of them really showed out.
Wrong, as you would know if you found your glasses and even remembered which poster I am.
This makes no sense, take your damn meds.
This is not only untrue but you don't explain how you came to that conclusion at all, you're just rambling.
You seem to not even understand logical progressions. If Jordan is much better than LeBron, it STRENGTHENS my argument, because all I'm saying is that LeBron can't be expected to do what even Jordan was unable to do.
You're also using "moving the goal posts" wrong.
cofefe? Your mind lost track of things again.
Did you just have a stroke?
I'm unclear on what you're arguing - are you trying to say that Jordan didn't really care during his Wizards days and wasn't trying? There's so much fluff surrounding your arguments here that it creates a distraction.
It's really weird to take the development of three players and, without every evidence at all, attribute it to Jordan. Especially when all three had their best season when Jordan was gone.
You're talking about two top-10 picks and a #18 pick, all of whom were well-picked and successful from early in their career. LeBron was never around for the development of so much top talent. The closest group would have been Kyrie, TT, and Dion, but he wasn't around for a lot of their development as players and two of them were pretty mediocre picks for their spot anyways. What other talent was ever out their for him?
Take your meds shabazz.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I should not have to eliminate wrong based statements made incomplete misleading fashion. Yet since you wanna get clowned just starting out. In basic premise and timeline fashion. Your comparison makes no sense. As one Jordan was a former exec coming down from office.
taking on a straight from high school pedigreed talent. Where as Wiggins is a college pedigreed talent, whom was not acquired on James watch. not to mention, bron jettisonned wiggins because he admitted he fails to ramp players and said he wanted love because he was already ready. which was a lie, when love got fujiwara'd out the playoffs by a white boi named kelly of all things.
Plus James ignorantly jettisoned away and also jettisoned away a unit that could on paper compete for a nba title, immediately.
When at least Mike actually worked up said talent and took on talent.
that James would not even actually look at in comparison via even the current eye test.
When James had seen Wiggins in his own camps.
Yet still in his small bball iq was incapable of ramping or undertaking ramping the player. Whereas Mike had a proven rubrick that worked on three all stars. When in comparison LeBron never ramped a said all star in his charge and out of his charge to all star player without him present.
Nor has he taken an all star Calibur player present like Ricky Davis to the promised Land like magic and Mike did with numerous players. Nor did James ramp miles, z, don'yell Marshall to Jamison whom all had as high of pedigree as brown. So you jumping to cite Mike failure with brown. Is far and away in timeline failure to bron with similar number one pedigreed style parts.
so,...we can continue this tablin....
But just waiting on you to submit in this opening. As it is easy to table your nonsense.
I can move to a terminal to get rid of you since you think you tough trying to dissect points like you know wtf you talembout. Only time in eight seven you watched Jordan was as a Cleveland old guard homer before and after the first of three shots in the playoffs and a seventy nine point drubbiing punk.
Stop.
The Dankster said:
all the years count and i can easily point out the difference in jordan's playing years from start and accolades based on skill play. that easily over shadow the inferior skill player in lebron james. including how it relates to resume and the end conclusion.
something of which i know you don't comprehend at all.
which i will showcase you don't know wtf you talembou at all.
by exposing you next quote to show in full depth.
you have no cognitive awareness of the argument of the goat.
nor the numerous arguments around the goat.
just around your simple idiot based answer quote next i will bold.
The Dankster said:
you said this does make any sense in response to this quote.
ART BARR said:
this easily shows you don't know anything associated around wtf the actual goat argument is and how michael jordan saw that argument and re-took the mantle to mean the actual best skill player wholeheartedly. which was a complete departure to crown bird the all time basketball goat based on deflecting the greatness of russell onto bird and false magnifying it.
your bolded response proves you don't even know the goat argument to even be posting about or talking about it at all.
you sir are done, and if you want i will continue to give you another tabling.
after i go over more of your bullshyt.
i am on a real terminal i can type this out in one hunid and twenty second, nikka.
ya done.
The Dankster said:
I closed this out previously in exposing how short sighted and far from well versed you are on the topic of michael jordan as a skill player in an admin setting by simple timeline, already.
this long wannabe breakdown of my rant by your bullshyt two sentences cause you don't know the source material at all. is easily exposed.
art barr
if you been watching since 87, then you saw jordan elevate his teammates play playing point guard and averaging a triple double.
so, yousa lie. to say it took phil for mike to elevate their play.
as back then it was level to this shyt and in eighty seven mike was elevating a perrenial loser to off level team based finishes period.
you forgetting mike had galvanized help already.
till it was jettisoned for the weaker cartwright, by that bean counter.
which in mythos is written to given some credence to krause as an admin.
when, krause had no idea wtf he was doing.
of which mike socially clowned him for, brutally and rightfully so.
again, talking bullshyt and you don't know.
Dankster said:
u're a nobody, breh.
the dankster said:
again, all this is deflection cause you don't know the actual mythos of the goat argument.
nor do you enen know the goat argument at all.
plus, if your so-called hinted of idea is lebron is not qualified to even be the goat.
why are you even trying to continue to cite these offbrand made in error far from timeline comparison based rants.
which have no real logical base.
nor context if you know either the timeline of jordan and bron.
you are on bullshyt, and if i ever see you try to deflect like i don't know wtf i am talembout ever again. like i had a heart attack, or take some bullshyt white hippie offbrand powder based drugs. i don't do cluck drugs, nikka. yousa lame to even think a black man of my professional stature would even ever consume that being from my gen you goofie.
plus, if you know the streets in a real urban setting.
you know damn well no forty year old nikka who on shyt for real like me.
has ever violated the rules of the games on simple shyt.
you offbrand and probably from the burbs, breh.
if i see you try that shyt again...on that whooptie..
you catching that fukk'n table, nikka.
art barr
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