NBA Rank top 10 Center's ever

[Illeye buckmatic]

I just read Howard got better post moves than the Admiral

 

[FTBS]

Surpass who? First, it was Timmy who killed the lakers in 2003 ... which might have been his greatest run. Not TP, he was too raw. In 2004, TP was killing the lakers games 1 and 2 with his driving, but got shut down after that.

Also, it's not just about numbers. It's about how those numbers came about. Shaq in the post was automatic. Timmy, as great as he is, never reached that level. Timmy was a better overall defender than Shaq. But Shaq's ability to ensure points was why he won 3 straight. There's a reason why Timmy never won even 2 straight... because he was always capable of being shut down overall.

The guys you listed. I didn't say TP killed the Lakers, I said he drove the ball with Shaq back there. Tim never reached that level but delayed and ended the 3 peat with a flabby DRob and Manu as his best teammates.

Shaq having Kobe and Phil while every other star was on an island was the reason he won 3 straight. He was automatic from the post in other seasons and still got swept.

 

[westcoastjay]

No ones talking about Big Ben ...Dont sleep

 

[Goatpoacher]

The guys you listed. I didn't say TP killed the Lakers, I said he drove the ball with Shaq back there. Tim never reached that level but delayed and ended the 3 peat with a flabby DRob and Manu as his best teammates.

Shaq having Kobe and Phil while every other star was on an island was the reason he won 3 straight. He was automatic from the post in other seasons and still got swept.

When did he get swept despite being prime or near prime? 1999?

 

[OfTheCross]

Too bad he's recognized as the best PF ever, no matter how sad it makes you

Doesn't make me sad. The Admiral is my favorite player ever so I got love for his son. I just know he's only considered a PF because David was there

 

[McPiff]

I just read Howard got better post moves than the Admiral

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[FTBS]

When did he get swept despite being prime or near prime? 1999?

Better question would be what year wasn't he automatic from the paint because there are fewer of them. I just said sweeps to hype it up but I was referencing L's period. Biggest difference between 00-03 and the rest of his career was the level of comp both at his position and team wise, not him turning some magical corner.

 

[Malta]

Doesn't make me sad. The Admiral is my favorite player ever so I got love for his son. I just know he's only considered a PF because David was there

So Rasho, Nazr, Elson and Oberto were the PFs? Is that what you saying

 

[Goatpoacher]

Better question would be what year wasn't he automatic from the paint because there are fewer of them. I just said sweeps to hype it up but I was referencing L's period. Biggest difference between 00-03 and the rest of his career was the level of comp both at his position and team wise, not him turning some magical corner.

It seemed to me that Phil just had him playing to his potential those years. The biggest mark against Shaq in these GOAT arguments is hat he didn't apply himself and push himself to his full abilities.

As I've previously stated though, I'm not here to make definitive statements as to who is the greatest. I'm more interest in what level of analysis goes into the the statement, and what is the actual criteria. I don't think anybody bothers setting for the criteria before they start.

 

[FTBS]

It seemed to me that Phil just had him playing to his potential those years. The biggest mark against Shaq in these GOAT arguments is hat he didn't apply himself and push himself to his full abilities.

As I've previously stated though, I'm not here to make definitive statements as to who is the greatest. I'm more interest in what level of analysis goes into the the statement, and what is the actual criteria. I don't think anybody bothers setting for the criteria before they start.

Not true. Most folks criteria is "Who do I like more?" . I try to keep my shyt consistent and 100 regardless.

 

[Goatpoacher]

Not true. Most folks criteria is "Who do I like more?" . I try to keep my shyt consistent and 100 regardless.

yeah, that's prevalent, too. THey determine who to stan, then rationalize it afterwards. Whereas I'm here defending Shaq, a player who I hated when he was dominating :jjjjj:

 

[Consumed]

I just read Howard got better post moves than the Admiral

In the low post yeah. Dwight at least had that power back down & baby hook even though he would struggle to utilize either against bigs with the length/strength/discipline to guard him. The Admiral earned that nickname for reasons that have little to nothing to do with B2B post up scoring, just wasn't really his game. Reason why I like using him as a ceiling for what AD can be

 

[ManBearPig]

Offensively yeah, he wasn't cut out to be a dominant number one option. Wasn't a skilled post player (for all the shyt Dwight gets, HE was better than D Rob in the low post) and relied too much on his jumper and athleticism to score which got him in trouble against great defenses in the PS.

That being said, the man was an absolute force defensively and is indisputably one of the greatest to ever play this game on that end of the court, imo a top 5 lock. Individual offense might not be on the level of his all time great peers, but he was still a high impact offensive anchor that provided value in a myriad of ways including as a playmaker where he was brilliant.

Like him more b/c he was on another planet entirely defensively and Moses wasn't actually a very skilled offensive player in his own right. Relentless on the glass and powerful in the paint, but he wasn't Hakeem or Duncan on the block or anything.

Moses Malone was beast in the block tho.

There is no way in hell I'm picking David Roberson over Malone to accomplish a deep playoffs run. I cant even think of a series when David Roberson got me like "damn he snapped"

Moses Malone at least outplayed Kareem numerous of occasions and carried a shytty rockets team to the Finals

 

[TKOK]

My exact top 5.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Hardest position to rank.