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So we using the Olympics where Team USA went life and death with Jokic and a bunch of coal miners as a barometer? Here's a hint, the Olympic team played well below their ceiling because everything revolved around the flabby heads 
NBA GMs Vote on the Best Players at Each position for 2024-25. Luka, Ant, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic
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Funny how you mentioned the bubble season when Tatum couldn't even get to the finals there
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.Tatum didn’t dominate shyt, wtf are you talking about? Goran Dragic and Bruce Brown were starting.Except Tatum had already dominated KD in the playoffs a couple years ago so there's no reason to suggest that KD is a better player than him right now besides "I like the way his game looks".... KD was getting locked up lol
GM's trying to sweet talk the Celts right before the season starts, I see it
Then what does that make Emplead who constantly gets punked by a 70 year old AL Horford when it matters most
I mean, known of these nikkaz is Hakeem or Kareem.
But y'all stay suckin off the cac likes we ain't never seen better on both sides of the ball.
And we have better now, even though their ain't many true bigs.
Geriatric Al Hartford is embiids kryptonite.
But had to get Gay ass Dwight Howard out the league so jokic could get a chip
When has Tatum ever led his team to win anything ever? Brown (and depending on the round both Holiday and White) outperformed him in every series
Both are in their late 30s performing better in the playoffs than prime Tatum. I shudder to think what a Tatum led offense would look like in 12 years.
Lmao. Tatum LED the Celtics on every single offensive category the 6th player to do that in the history of the game but yeah let’s throw in Holliday and White in there.
But go ahead convince yourself he was “carried” to a title
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Tatum dominated KD last time they played a playoff series. People can like the aesthetic of KD's game better but I only care about the results.
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Lol @ "if you swap Tatum with this guy or that guy...." You think it's Derek White who is making all the difference? Great role player but that's what he is, a role player. Holiday? He's still solid but past his prime years.
Porzingis? He barely even played in the playoffs....
The Celtics won and dominated the regular season and the playoffs because of Brown and Tatum because they both play offense AND defense...
Also, Tatum dominated KD in that playoff series without White or Holiday on the team....
Porzingis? He barely even played in the playoffs....
The Celtics won and dominated the regular season and the playoffs because of Brown and Tatum because they both play offense AND defense...
Also, Tatum dominated KD in that playoff series without White or Holiday on the team....
White was a trade deadline acquisition that yearLol @ "if you swap Tatum with this guy or that guy...." You think it's Derek White who is making all the difference? Great role player but that's what he is, a role player. Holiday? He's still solid but past his prime years.
Porzingis? He barely even played in the playoffs....
The Celtics won and dominated the regular season and the playoffs because of Brown and Tatum because they both play offense AND defense...
Also, Tatum dominated KD in that playoff series without White or Holiday on the team....
The Celtics were up 2-0 after the first tweet and 3-1 after the second. They ended up finishing 7-0 in games he shot under 40%
But nah, totally normal star player performance in the playoffs.. Up there with 2023 Jokic. That's why Tatum won both the ECF and Finals MVPs, right?
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Oh so what's the narrative now? That Jaylen Brown carried the team with no help all season and during the playoffs? 
This is from people who clowned Jaylen Brown, said he can't dribble at all and wasn't worth the contract he got.
So which is it?
This is from people who clowned Jaylen Brown, said he can't dribble at all and wasn't worth the contract he got.
So which is it?
Oh so what's the narrative now? That Jaylen Brown carried the team with no help all season and during the playoffs?
This is from people who clowned Jaylen Brown, said he can't dribble at all and wasn't worth the contract he got.
So which is it?
Bc truthfully they not really Jaylen fans, they’re just Tatum haters. That’s why the only time you hear them praising him is when he’s pit against JT
Nobody carried anyone on this team, but their First Take minds can’t accept that reality
Who argued that Jaylen Brown carried?
I simply stated that Tatum was statistically outperformed by a teammate in damn near every round of the playoffs. You have to be a homer or mindlessly results-based to think this playoff run did anything to improve Tatum’s standing amongst the best of the best, which is what this thread is about. The 2024 Celtics were closer to all-time great ensemble casts like the 2004 Pistons or 2014 Spurs than they were the 2023 Nuggets or 2011 Mavs.
Just to reiterate, the guy didn’t win the Finals MVP, he didn’t win the ECF MVP, in the second round he scored as many FGs as Brown on 30 more shots, and yet you have folks acting like it’s egregious to think he had a playoff run below the standards you would expect from a true superstar.
If anything, you could argue that he’s an additive player that does enough of the little things for his team to win when he’s struggling but that’s irrelevant to a thread that is discussing top 10-15 players.
Who argued that Jaylen Brown carried?
I simply stated that Tatum was statistically outperformed by a teammate in damn near every round of the playoffs. You have to be a homer or mindlessly results-based to think this playoff run did anything to improve Tatum’s standing amongst the best of the best, which is what this thread is about. The 2024 Celtics were closer to all-time great ensemble casts like the 2004 Pistons or 2014 Spurs than they were the 2023 Nuggets or 2011 Mavs.
Just to reiterate, the guy didn’t win the Finals MVP, he didn’t win the ECF MVP, in the second round he scored as many FGs as Brown on 30 more shots, and yet you have folks acting like it’s egregious to think he had a playoff run below the standards you would expect from a true superstar.
If anything, you could argue that he’s an additive player that does enough of the little things for his team to win when he’s struggling but that’s irrelevant to a thread that is discussing top 10-15 players.
I’m fine with saying Tatum’s run didn’t do anything to improve his stock. He was good, not spectacular. When talking about this title run people will talk about how great the Celtics were as a collective, not any one player just dominating. Most Celtic fans likely agree with that. Where the pushback starts is when folks start trying to minimize how important he was on this run.
Problem is, in the context of this conversation the guys being put up against him at his position didn’t do anything of note in the postseason either. Cause I can’t envision a world where the roles are reversed yet Tatum is given more credit
