Nas signs deal with Hennessy to push poison onto the youth

[L. Deezy]

Naw it wasn't at all, he fukked up with that analogy; those Gaye and Brown songs weren't contradictions of each other - Nas' were. He ridiculed females for going after the iced-out, mink-wearing, in-the-club type nikka in "Black Girl Lost" and in "You Owe Me" he telling the females to get with him cause he a iced-out, Marc Kaufman mink coat-wearing, in-the-club type nikka.

Naw, you're wrong. I dont feel like typing a thesis about it.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Naw, you're wrong. I dont feel like typing a thesis about it.

There's no thesis to write about a Gaye + Brown aforementioned songs = Nas' Book of Contradictions equation, simply because his analogy doesn't add up. He used their songs as evidence to draw parallels to the criticism he gets for being a walking contradiction, when in fact those Gaye and Brown songs he mentioned bear no resemblance to the definition of contradiction nor any resemblance to folk critiquing him: "Is it black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice?"

It seems Nas doesn't know the difference between contradiction and diversity.

 

[prophecypro]

 

[L. Deezy]

There's no thesis to write about a Gaye + Brown aforementioned songs = Nas' Book of Contradictions equation, simply because his analogy doesn't add up. He used their songs as evidence to draw parallels to the criticism he gets for being a walking contradiction, when in fact those Gaye and Brown songs he mentioned bear no resemblance to the definition of contradiction nor any resemblance to folk critiquing him: "Is it black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice?"

It seems Nas doesn't know the difference between contradiction and diversity.

dude, its not about contradictions. The interviewer put that in front of Nas...


No one is one fukking person. The premise of what Nas is saying is as an artist, you can express yourself in many forms.

Y'all taking contradiction waaaaaaaaay out of context. That goes for any artist like Pac, Nas, Cube, whoever..
Im not a Pac fan by any stretch. But you clearly see he's not one type of person. He's an honest artist. I'll give him that. Same with Nas

a few songs out of hundreds is hardly a contradiction. We've all seen the vast directions Nas and Pac and a lot of real artists before them have gone.

just say you hate Nas and be done mufukka.. geeeeeez

 

[DANJ!]

He actually said no Beer commercials and said it was because they were trying to get him just cause it was cool to put a rapper next to their product.

I've also heard him say in numerous interviews, he takes business deals depending on whether he likes to product or not. Even that soul TV interview he dropped in the summer, he said he may sellout again but it'll always be his way. I'm not saying that's right but I think one thing we can agree on is he does things to his choosing.

So he probably fukks with Henny more than Coors..

Also Im always surprised he gets under a microscope for being a contradiction when a lot of people in the rap game are. Granted he might be on the Mt. Rushmore of so called hypocrits along with Krs-One and 2pac...but that aint bad company to be in.

Oh... he said no BEER commercials. So liquor's OK, just no beer.

And at "he did it cause they were only trying to get him cause it was cool to have a rapper next to their product". You think Hennessy's getting him to endorse cause they think he's just a nice human being?

That nikka ain't who he's promoted himself to be... and that's the problem with most righteous muhfukkas. They never are, but they know people will make excuses for 'em anyway, so they contradict themselves all the time with their actions.

I ain't even that mad at it, don't even give a shyt really, but it's hilarious when nikkas come with their excuses. Just admit the dude ain't any of what he tried to make himself out to be when he was on his "I refuse to participate in ignorance, commercialism, or anything of the sort" mode. Cause he took part in all of it.

 

[Nintendough]

Nnauwze

 

[prophecypro]

Oh... he said no BEER commercials. So liquor's OK, just no beer.

And at "he did it cause they were only trying to get him cause it was cool to have a rapper next to their product". You think Hennessy's getting him to endorse cause they think he's just a nice human being?

I dont think he ever said in the episode he was anti-alcohol though. You've seen the episode, it seemed like he just wasnt feeling the idea that Coors wanted to come at him for a commerical deal right after Ether and Stillmatic dropped.
Before, after and during that period he was still taking commercials deal (Dude still had Rim ads in the Source and Sean John shoots). Which is fine

That nikka ain't who he's promoted himself to be... and that's the problem with most righteous muhfukkas. They never are, but they know people will make excuses for 'em anyway, so they contradict themselves all the time with their actions.

I ain't even that mad at it, don't even give a shyt really, but it's hilarious when nikkas come with their excuses. Just admit the dude ain't any of what he tried to make himself out to be when he was on his "I refuse to participate in ignorance, commercialism, or anything of the sort" mode. Cause he took part in all of it.

But I ask people all the time, who do you think Nas promoted himself to be? Cause even from the jump in the Nasty era and Escobar era you always saw a dude who was giving off different perspective of socially/righteous and materialstic/fantasy gangsta. And tob e frank that's probably been part of his appeal as well as a turn off for fans. I honestly think some people like it when a rapper has different perspectives (2pac certainly but its not just him we've seen different examples)
I think that's what most people are tryng to say if they are defending him in here .
If there is anyone who dares to say Nas is just a socially conscious anti-establishment type MC...well that holds as much merit as saying 2pac was solely a concious MC and they're just romantisizing one aspect of artist.

 

[DANJ!]

I dont think he ever said in the episode he was anti-alcohol though. You've seen the episode, it seemed like he just wasnt feeling the idea that Coors wanted to come at him for a commerical deal right after Ether and Stillmatic dropped.
Before, after and during that period he was still taking commercials deal (Dude still had Rim ads in the Source and Sean John shoots). Which is fine

But I ask people all the time, who do you think Nas promoted himself to be? Cause even from the jump in the Nasty era and Escobar era you always saw a dude who was giving off different perspective of socially/righteous and materialstic/fantasy gangsta. And tob e frank that's probably been part of his appeal as well as a turn off for fans. I honestly think some people like it when a rapper has different perspectives (2pac certainly but its not just him we've seen different examples)
I think that's what most people are tryng to say if they are defending him in here .
If there is anyone who dares to say Nas is just a socially conscious anti-establishment type MC...well that holds as much merit as saying 2pac was solely a concious MC and they're just romantisizing one aspect of artist.

My point is this... there's nothing wrong with having a myriad of perspectives and interests. But when you claim to be so against something and even look down on others for participating in it... and then you turn around and do the same shyt... it's kinda shaky. Nas refuses to do beer ads, he's so anti-corporate, he doesn't advocate alcohol, it broke his heart to see Rakim do a Hennessy ad... and yet, when it's time to do some shyt for Hennessy, he's proud to announce it. People have the freedom to change their minds, but don't act like he lives by some set of ethics that won't change when it's beneficial to him.

 

[Mr. Pink]

The Nas haters' arguments in this thread have been disingenuous from the very beginning. They'll be the first to tell you that Nas "isn't relevant anymore" that "no one under 30 knows who the fukk Nas is" etc.
Now all of a sudden Nas is pushing poison to kids.

Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. How can Nas push poison to kids if they don't know who he is? What kid is going to drink Henny just cause Nas endorsed it?

 

[prophecypro]

My point is this... there's nothing wrong with having a myriad of perspectives and interests. But when you claim to be so against something and even look down on others for participating in it... and then you turn around and do the same shyt... it's kinda shaky. Nas refuses to do beer ads, he's so anti-corporate, he doesn't advocate alcohol, it broke his heart to see Rakim do a Hennessy ad... and yet, when it's time to do some shyt for Hennessy, he's proud to announce it. People have the freedom to change their minds, but don't act like he lives by some set of ethics that won't change when it's beneficial to him.

I think this is where people's perception comes in vs what he says and I'll give people the benefit and say its easy to percieve and come to that conclusion in the moment. But I never got the impression he was super super anti-establisment during that era. He certainly said and did things that make people think he's anti-establishment (Calling the Roots Sambos, The Power 106 rant, the Huey P Newton photoshoots) but in the same era he was still doing commercial stuff (Remixes with Brandy, Jagged Edge, Ja, aformentined ads). To his slight credit, he kinda outlined that in Source and XXL interviews at the time (that Feb 2002 Source interview where he was talking about how he was surprised people couldnt see him giving shades of Escobar even on Illmatic)
And so I kinda walk away from it saying "Alright this is what he thinks about one thing and we probably shouldnt assume that means he's gonna think about it similarly when applying to other things".
Plus his comments about others or things seems a bit inspired by what others are saying and he runs with it if he agrees (the power 106 rant did feel like backpacker conversation from 2002 but in fairness you have to really have a sole opinon to think that while doing said remixes...which again is possible and honestly it probably fueled his popularity with some people because he seems to have had a more passionate fanbase post-stillmatic with the controversery despite selling more in the Escobar era when he just seemed quiet and visually shy)

The Rakim comment is kind of interesting though and Ive never read it in full especially when I dont even think back in 97 people looked at Ra selling out for it cause it was done it a pretty classy ad. I'd have to read it in full interpret the context and the time he said it. And at this point I would think about 95% of the Hip-Hop community is pretty content with the idea of commercialsm rather than being against.

 

[Danie84]

I wonder if he performed Poison

 

[Black Roses]

I wonder if he performed Poison

lol green lantern actually started playing it for a few seconds. The stan in me was relieved when he didn't actually go into the song.

Woulda been somewhat cringe worthy.

 

[Danie84]

Performing that would have been the perfect oxymoron

 

[Gravity]

No.. I call Nas a hypocrite because he is..

Spoiler

And I call you doeboy, because you are

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People strongly disagree with me on here all the time, but nobody thinks I'm a fool..Which is why I was able to come from the old site without changing my indentity and unsuccessfully trying to reinvent myself

I highly doubt that. You convince yourself to believe that for self esteem purposes. You're living thru this site. I get it though. As pathetic as it sounds, I'd bet that gator_king gets a lot more "respect" here than whoever you are in real life.

 

[OG Talk]

I highly doubt that. You convince yourself to believe that for self esteem purposes. You're living thru this site. I get it though. As pathetic as it sounds, I'd bet that gator_king gets a lot more "respect" here than whoever you are in real life.

Actually it's the opposite doeboy