Nas - NASIR (Discussion Thread)

[John Mexico]

Music review slogs not being very easy on the album. Too much Kelis banter and that the music lacks "heart".

I dont think hes being viewed using the right microscope. They only accept this type of unapologetic shyt from Kendikk

 

[TheJet]

I wanna hear what joints from this session didnt make the album.

 

[JustCKing]

Illmatic was a game changer for people who actually rapped/hiphop community at large (see biggie, pac, jayz etc..). Not casuals who got their ideas of hiphop from top 40 radio.

The topic was 1994 and who was considered Top 5 in '94. What I'm saying this album wasn't nowhere near the magnitude of a game changer at that time as was being made out to be in that thread. That Instagram post pretty much confirms that.

 

[-Quikness-]

after 6 years of waiting

I could divide, that's like a 1 track every new year average

That’s 1 hot song every 6 years average

I’m fukking disappointed to tell you the truth

I’ll let it marinate for a few days

 

[Pop123]

A

White Label in the whip

Adam and Eve in the whip is heavy too,

 

[drugxglory]

"You impressed with what they wearing, I started that"

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Music review slogs not being very easy on the album. Too much Kelis banter and that the music lacks "heart".

I dont think hes being viewed using the right microscope. They only accept this type of unapologetic shyt from Kendikk

Stop looking to cac blogs for validation from cacs. All the greats have called the album great.

Its a modern day classic already.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The topic was 1994 and who was considered Top 5 in '94. What I'm saying this album wasn't nowhere near the magnitude of a game changer at that time as was being made out to be in that thread.

it was a game changer within hiphop, not outside to non-hiphop fans

I had the Illmatic on bootleg
The shyt was so ahead, thought we was all dead

Jayz




"name a rapper that I ain't influence"







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2pac

Despite these regional differences, Hampton credits Illmatic with providing a common artistic ground for rappers on the West Coast and East Coast rap scenes. In the 2009 essay "Born Alone, Die Alone," she recounts the album's impact on West Coast artist, Tupac Shakur.[108] While working as a journalist for The Source in 1994, Hampton covered three court cases involving Tupac. Around this time, she received an advance-copy of Illmatic and immediately dubbed a cassette version for Tupac, who became "an instant convert" of the album. The next day, she writes, Tupac "arrived in his assigned courtroom blasting Illmatic so loudly that the bailiff yelled at him to turn it off before the judge took his seat on the bench." In her essay, Hampton implies that Nas' lyricism might have influenced Tupac's acclaimed album, Me Against the World, which was recorded that same year.[108]

That Instagram post pretty much confirms that.

he's talking in a mainstream sense. Illmatic is now championed by mainstream casuals when in 94 it was championed by hiphop circles

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Music News: Teedra Moses on Illmatic: ‘It Should Be a Course in College.’ (talks about rask kass listening to nas)

https://www.bet.com/video/music-fea...llmatic-it-should-be-a-course-in-college.html


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[John Mexico]

Stop looking to cac blogs for validation from cacs. All the greats have called the album great.

Its a modern day classic already.

Understandable, and yes I am under the impression that this is a " instant classic, however we will see how this stands up against time. What I cannot stand is the hypocrisy and shortsightedness of the criticism, and nas had been a lightning rod for quite some time.

He doesn't need cac validation. I wish they would stop choosing certain folks to be morally policed. Watch them try and turn him into an anti vaxxer despite not delving deeper into the underlying message. Musically its bliss. My only complaint is I never heard I Cant Explain, and I'm left to wonder if maybe THAT one belongs here, since I'm hearing complaints about the mixing on Whote Label

 

[ViShawn]

I think Ye dropped a better verse on "Cops Shot The Kid" than Nas.

 

[JustCKing]

it was a game changer within hiphop, not outside to non-hiphop fans

I had the Illmatic on bootleg
The shyt was so ahead, thought we was all dead

Jayz




"name a rapper that I ain't influence"







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2pac






he's talking in a mainstream sense. Illmatic is now championed by mainstream casuals when in 94 it was championed by hiphop circles

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Music News: Teedra Moses on Illmatic: ‘It Should Be a Course in College.’ (talks about rask kass listening to nas)

https://www.bet.com/video/music-fea...llmatic-it-should-be-a-course-in-college.html


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None of this contradicts the point though. In regard to Jay Z, that post clearly speaks on the influence in NYC. In regard to Pac, she's not being definitive in saying Illmatic influenced Me Against The World at least not in the sense that "I Gave You Power" obviously influenced "Me And My Girlfriend" both from their respective '96 albums.

Cats were saying Illmatic changed everything. Which wasn't the case. If someone says Doggystyle or Chronic changed everything, you don't even have to pull statements. It was quite obvious. There were clones immediately after. People were dressing how Dre and Snoop dressed in the videos. The production shifted.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Tech Nine and Kool G Rap are older and have no problem with their flows.

you right about Tech but way off about G Rap...G been falling off beat sounding half flabby for years now..he can still spit fire but he be slipping up.

 

[brownsugah]

@ThaEruditious

At this time, MQA-encoded audio resides on the Do-Not-Upload list (visible on the upload page). Users who source FLAC files from online vendors, particularly Tidal, should be aware of how to identify MQA-encoded files so as not to upload this content.

Sound & Vision wrote: Master Quality Authenticated (MQA) is an audio technology that was originally developed by Bob Stuart, co-founder of British hi-fi manufacturer Meridian Audio, and is now licensed by MQA Ltd. A main idea behind MQA is to take high-resolution master recordings and package them into a standard resolution file size that can be easily downloaded or streamed.

On the technical side: MQA audio files begin as a high bit-depth and sample-rate FLAC file, commonly 24bit/96khz. The MQA encoder splits the audio into two sets of audio information, content above and below 48khz. Signals <=48khz is downconverted to 16-bit, either with dithering or just truncation. This is what becomes the "high" 16-bit output in the final file. Signals >48khz are compressed through means that are uncertain, however this is assumed to be through a method similar to transcoding to MP3 or AC3. The compressed >48khz signal then becomes the "low" 8-bit output in the final file. Finally, the MQA encoder re-assembles the high 16-bit audio and low 8-bit audio into the final MQA FLAC output. The low 8-bit output isn't actually PCM audio, so if you play it on its own it would sound like white noise. If you play a standard 24/48 MQA FLAC with a standard FLAC decoder ("folded"), it will sound like a standard 24/48 file with some noise you likely won't be able to hear. But if you run the 24/48 MQA FLAC through an MQA decoder ("unfolding"), it will take the lower 8-bits out and reproduce it as something other than noise, however you likely won't be able to hear that either.

The same thing happens with CDDA audio, except the higher 13-bits of audio are either left untouched or potentially dithered, with the lower 3-bits of audio having been compressed.

So I can understand why now. MQA is considered a non-properly sourced format. They even have spectrals uploaded that really show the differences between MQA/Masters and a properly sourced 24-bit FLAC.

• Now, how can you ID an MQA release that doesn't have a 20k roll-off? Here's an example MQA file that doesn't have the 20k roll off (Sample track: Roundabout - Yes):

Spoiler

• If you compare this to the following spectral, with the same length, from a properly sourced 24-bit FLAC, you'll see it is silent (top is dithered, bottom is the undithered original):

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I sent everyone the regular 16-bit/44.1kHz FLAC..but I also have the Qobuz Hi-Res Audio 24-bit/44.1kHz FLAC that is considered "properly-sourced" by Redacted as well for those who would like it.

 

[JayBaldacci]

Rakim aint dropping albums for a reason bro Show me a Rakim album where he sounding anywhere close to this level.

Rakim rapped better on every album from a technical standpoint.

 

[JayBaldacci]

Nas called that nikka up and told him to dead that bullshyt

What did it say?