spliz
SplizThaDon
Untitled ain’t too high that album was dope af.
Nas - Magic (Discussion Thread)
and on top of that nobody still can't rap better than him.spliz
SplizThaDon
Hatin ass nikkas clinging on the the sales angle cause that’s all they got but they barely even have that.
CHAIN
All Star
Bro...
1. Vol 3 is no Nastradamus.
It had the streets joints ( So Ghetto / Dope Man)
It had the street/club hit ( Do it Again )
It had the smash hit/classic ( Big Pimpin')
'Its Hot' was a 'fat tape'
'Is That Yo bytch' ....I can't even categorized that. Yall know what it did.
S. Carter and Pop 4 Roc were super trash
So was Things That You Do. But at least he was spitting.
Jigga off the Ruff Ryder was still rocking too.
Vol 3. did what it had to do for his career.
2. Nastradamus was none of the above.
It tarnished his image. I remember it clear as day. It had him looking bad out there.
Even the lead single was embarrassing. Yeah we know it's an EPMD joint. But naaah.
The Intro? Spoken Word by a Shea butter over a keyboard beat? What?!
Coming off Nas is Like we got 'Come Get Me'
That wasn't it.
And I guess 'Family' aged well or whatever but let's get it correct. That was one of the wackest beats I heard that year. That keyboard Ruff Ryder compilation throwaway beat was horrendous.
This was 99. I never heard a beat that cheap sounding on a east coast major release.
Quiet nikkas? i guess that was the dirty south track.
Big Girl? ...yeah
New World? It's not a bad record but it wasn't right for that era, on that album, at the end of the album.
The other records aren't garbage garbage but none of them were strong enough to save the album.
It's cool to disagree but this is when Nas fell from grace. That's why the come back on Stillmatic was so glorious. Dude was in a dark place lol.
Ps: the Shea Butter outro.....smh.
Hydro drops???
spliz
SplizThaDon
U forget I Am dropped the same year and was the better album than Vol 3? Nastradamus dropped out of nowhere and it still sold 1.5. You Owe Me was a successful single and he went on that same year to do a bunch of dope remix features etc etc. fam chill. I’m not talkin bout how fukkin hype Jay was when Vol 3 I know. I was a DJ at that time. I had the album before release and before everyone I knew. But the QUALITY of the album was a clear drop off from previous but received none of the hate. Nastradamus was a disappointment but it wasn’t HATED like it is now. Either way. People putting Vol 3 over Black Album is crazy talk to me and an opinion I never heard off the internet but here we are.Bro...
1. Vol 3 is no Nastradamus.
It had the streets joints ( So Ghetto / Dope Man)
It had the street/club hit ( Do it Again )
It had the smash hit/classic ( Big Pimpin')
'Its Hot' was a 'fat tape'
'Is That Yo bytch' ....I can't even categorized that. Yall know what it did.
S. Carter and Pop 4 Roc were super trash
So was Things That You Do. But at least he was spitting.
Jigga off the Ruff Ryder was still rocking too.
Vol 3. did what it had to do for his career.
2. Nastradamus was none of the above.
It tarnished his image. I remember it clear as day. It had him looking bad out there.
Even the lead single was embarrassing. Yeah we know it's an EPMD joint. But naaah.
The Intro? Spoken Word by a Shea butter over a keyboard beat? What?!
Coming off Nas is Like we got 'Come Get Me'
That wasn't it.
And I guess 'Family' aged well or whatever but let's get it correct. That was one of the wackest beats I heard that year. That keyboard Ruff Ryder compilation throwaway beat was horrendous.
This was 99. I never heard a beat that cheap sounding on a east coast major release.
Quiet nikkas? i guess that was the dirty south track.
Big Girl? ...yeah
New World? It's not a bad record but it wasn't right for that era, on that album, at the end of the album.
The other records aren't garbage garbage but none of them were strong enough to save the album.
It's cool to disagree but this is when Nas fell from grace. That's why the come back on Stillmatic was so glorious. Dude was in a dark place lol.
Ps: the Shea Butter outro.....smh.
Hydro drops???
Prolific_1011
All Star
Nastradamus and Vol 3 are both 3.5 mics.
Only difference is that people hold the GOAT to a higher standard than Jay. That's all it comes down to.
Anyways, back to Magic...
Only difference is that people hold the GOAT to a higher standard than Jay. That's all it comes down to.
Anyways, back to Magic...
Bro...
1. Vol 3 is no Nastradamus.
It had the streets joints ( So Ghetto / Dope Man)
It had the street/club hit ( Do it Again )
It had the smash hit/classic ( Big Pimpin')
'Its Hot' was a 'fat tape'
'Is That Yo bytch' ....I can't even categorized that. Yall know what it did.
S. Carter and Pop 4 Roc were super trash
So was Things That You Do. But at least he was spitting.
Jigga off the Ruff Ryder was still rocking too.
Vol 3. did what it had to do for his career.
2. Nastradamus was none of the above.
It tarnished his image. I remember it clear as day. It had him looking bad out there.
Even the lead single was embarrassing. Yeah we know it's an EPMD joint. But naaah.
The Intro? Spoken Word by a Shea butter over a keyboard beat? What?!
Coming off Nas is Like we got 'Come Get Me'
That wasn't it.
And I guess 'Family' aged well or whatever but let's get it correct. That was one of the wackest beats I heard that year. That keyboard Ruff Ryder compilation throwaway beat was horrendous.
This was 99. I never heard a beat that cheap sounding on a east coast major release.
Quiet nikkas? i guess that was the dirty south track.
Big Girl? ...yeah
New World? It's not a bad record but it wasn't right for that era, on that album, at the end of the album.
The other records aren't garbage garbage but none of them were strong enough to save the album.
It's cool to disagree but this is when Nas fell from grace. That's why the come back on Stillmatic was so glorious. Dude was in a dark place lol.
Ps: the Shea Butter outro.....smh.
Hydro drops???
60% of Nastradamus is absolute dog shyt. Nas was lost, the label was lost, it's like the bootleg of I Am killed their whole vibe and they took terrible decisions. The whole concept was horribly executed, the intro and outro... A train wreck
Agreed Come get me was ass, a huge letdown..
And the beats are almost all awful. No wonder that people made remix albums that sounded way better than the original.
BUTTTTT, this album also has some of Nas' realest lyrics of his career (over average to horrible beats) and that's why it resonates for some of us.
Life we chose
Some of us have angels
Project windows
Last words
.. have some of the greatest Nas verses ever.
They were just surrounded by an ocean of shyt so the overall impression of that album will always be negative to most people. Nas fans who dig deep into lyrics and shyt will just keep those few joints here and there and add them to their collections of Nas verses that no other MC can do.
If you ask me, these 4 tracks I mentioned above hold more weight to me than the whole Streets Disciple double album. I could argue some of these 4 to be in a top 100 Nas ever, but none from SD (damn this album aged horribly..)
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
That’s an almost impossible endeavor to come up with a top 25 list for someone 30 years in the game with 15+ albums but I definitely think there’s several candidates. The best on each album is good enough to vie for placement at the top end of Nas’s catalog.
I agreed with almost everything you said...except this, yall are f'n buggin now, lol. I mean, it's no "Nas is Like"...but ass? No way.
Oh, I disagree with your SD take too. The way yall overlook and writeoff the gems just because the project as a whole was underwhelming is kinda criminal. That album has Nazareth Savage, Street's Disciple, These are our heroes, War, and American Way on it...The first 2 are just surgical with the rapping...the next 3 are just great songs in general. Disc two of that shyt is the worst Nas album ever by far tho, as a whole.
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I agree 100%. I listened to it and there’s gems on it. It isn’t nearly as bad an Encore/ Revival from Em.
Alexander Wiggin
All Star
Certain tracks are excellent like qgtm, testify, fried chicken or Louis farrakhan but the problem with that album is he didn't carry the original concept to the fullest. I am/Nastradamus, Hip hop is dead and untitled got the same problem.
He ruined it by putting tracks that were not fitting the theme like make the world go round, breathe or hero (the only one worth keeping, but put it at the end) Not that the tracks are bad but they fukked up the flow of the album. I wish he put some of the ****** tape tracks instead like legendary, be a ****** too. put esco let's go, who are you and get rid of the weaker tracks like y'all my nikkas (the chorus is bad) and we're not alone (the chorus boring and too long) and the album would have been much better
Untitled is a good album, and birthed kendrick's second album. Nas forsight the woke mentality and the police brutality we now see but people were criticizing him at the time for being too conscious which is absurd. Nas never follow the trend and I salute him for that. That's why I respect him so much. But the musical execution could have been better especially the song selection.
I can't put untitled above I am, I even prefer hip hop is dead if I have to choose. But they are pretty close, they both got promises, but both lacks direction
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spliz
SplizThaDon
Breathe was fire and I think the theme was consistent thruout. Even on shyt like Breathe and Hero he was spittin gems on it. Only track that truly didn’t fit was Make The World Go Round. That should’ve been replaced with Letter To The King.
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