RhymesWell
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Insane for him to be having his 2nd prime. With his latest run he has officially overtaken Pac as my personal goat just based off the sheer amount of classic material for decades now. If only Pac had lived as long 
Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)
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Hitboy and Alchemist.
LOST IN THE SAUCE
The Sauce Apostle
The Nas stans in the Hitboy defense league are the same ones who keep calling that Kanye album underrated and slept on though. You're making that guys point for him with this post.
WavyHair ChippedTeeth
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Wow!
My GOAT dropping again?! Shout outs to HIM!
My GOAT dropping again?! Shout outs to HIM!
FloodedJesus
Rookie
1994 - 1996: Dropped 2 of the best hiphop albums of all time + a bunch of classic feature verses
1997 - 2000: Dropped 2 solo albums that went platinum (even if the purists weren't feeling them)
2001 - 2004: Dropped 2 platinum albums and 1 gold album. Also drops 'Lost Tapes' (during this period 2 of those albums would be labelled classics)
2005 - 2012: Dropped 3 gold albums that all reach #1 in the chart. Also drops 'Distant Relatives'
2013 - 2018: Silence....
2018 - 2023: Drops 5 albums in 5 years including 1 Grammy winner, 1 Grammy nominee, and 1 album (Magic) that old school Nas fans label one of his best
Nas is the undisputed GOAT with a run in mainstream hiphop unmatched by anyone.
1997 - 2000: Dropped 2 solo albums that went platinum (even if the purists weren't feeling them)
2001 - 2004: Dropped 2 platinum albums and 1 gold album. Also drops 'Lost Tapes' (during this period 2 of those albums would be labelled classics)
2005 - 2012: Dropped 3 gold albums that all reach #1 in the chart. Also drops 'Distant Relatives'
2013 - 2018: Silence....
2018 - 2023: Drops 5 albums in 5 years including 1 Grammy winner, 1 Grammy nominee, and 1 album (Magic) that old school Nas fans label one of his best
Nas is the undisputed GOAT with a run in mainstream hiphop unmatched by anyone.
Slim Charles
All Star
I'm curious for those around at the time (i was around 10 then). What was the presence of Nas' name and music from 1997 to pre Stillmatic. I find it a fascinating era about Nas and somewhat defined where he went as an artist after.
I know he was all over the Clue tapes and had work with the Firm and NORE, loads of features and then of course two albums in 1999 which sold well. But this may be a Def Jam centric thing, but on lot of podcasts and the conversations about that era focus naturally on Jay, DMX and Ja. when people talk that era Nas doesn't come up in conversations as being an era defining artist for that late 90's period (and arguably he wasn't when compared to DMX, Jay and Ja)
As someone who wasn't there, it feels like A) not being part of Dej Jam machine didn't help in that way b) Firm not taking off how it should meant, while Roc had a crew of rappers, Nas went back to being dolo
Mastamimd
Ain't shyt
Lol that album was not underrated lol
Iām not sure thats just what Nas said. He said it in the interview with Nore. Paraphrasing but he basically was saying that he had a whole album worth of material with Havoc thats in the vaults and when Nore asked when the world was going to hear it he said āAll that shyt is STAYING in the vaultsā.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
I see more people who say its an either or thing. Like deadass I see people saying "I dont like Nas with Hitboy even Nas/ye on Nasir was better"
The Doctorās Advocate is his best album in my opinion but most think The Documentary is his best.
Heās got a lot of solid albums. LAX is dope. The Red Album is dope. Jesus Piece is good. Documentary 2 was kind of a comeback for him. Heās got a real good discography
Alchemist is one of the greatest producers of all time. I dare say the man's a genius...but he doesnāt have the same level of chemistry Hit Boy has with Nas to create the magic they do. That doesn't mean he's any less of a producer, he's still amazing.
Another example I can use is Kanye. One of the greatest right but that half-assed album he did for Nas is a perfect example of a producer just not having the right chemistry with the artist. That's not to say they haven't made great tracks together.
Another example is Hit Boy himself. I really don't like a lot of his beats and I didn't even like his last album. If I had a top 30 favorite producers list he probably ain't even in that either.
HOWEVER when he gets with Nas this nikka turns into Top 5.
Edit: I'd just like to add nikkas in Paris is my favorite Hit Boy beat of all time. It's one of the greatest beats of all time. Hit Boy is talented but it takes certain artists to dig the creative genius out of him and Nas is numero uno.
Another example I can use is Kanye. One of the greatest right but that half-assed album he did for Nas is a perfect example of a producer just not having the right chemistry with the artist. That's not to say they haven't made great tracks together.
Another example is Hit Boy himself. I really don't like a lot of his beats and I didn't even like his last album. If I had a top 30 favorite producers list he probably ain't even in that either.
HOWEVER when he gets with Nas this nikka turns into Top 5.
Edit: I'd just like to add nikkas in Paris is my favorite Hit Boy beat of all time. It's one of the greatest beats of all time. Hit Boy is talented but it takes certain artists to dig the creative genius out of him and Nas is numero uno.
Alchemist is one of the greatest producers of all time. I dare say the man's a genius...but he doesnāt have the same level of chemistry Hit Boy has with Nas to create the magic they do. That doesn't mean he's any less of a producer, he's still amazing.
Another example I can use is Kanye. One of the greatest right but that half-assed album he did for Nas is a perfect example of a producer just not having the right chemistry with the artist. That's not to say they haven't made great tracks together.
Another example is Hit Boy himself. I really don't like a lot of his beats and I didn't even like his last album. If I had a top 30 favorite producers list he probably ain't even in that either.
HOWEVER when he gets with Nas this nikka turns into Top 5.
Edit: I'd just like to add nikkas in Paris is my favorite Hit Boy beat of all time. It's one of the greatest beats of all time. Hit Boy is talented but it takes certain artists to dig the creative genius out of him and Nas is numero uno.
Agreed.
On his own do I enjoy hit boy more than the other producers mentioned here? No
But with the chemistry he has with Nas and how Nas feels the urge to create on such prolific level working with hit to go on to make 4 dope albums in 2 years if it isnāt broke why fix it?
Before hitboy it took Nas 6 years to make anything new and 8 years before a new full album I canāt complain
Would I be mad if he went in another direction this album? No but letās not act like another Nas and hit album would be tough to take
If you would have told me three years ago Nas would find one producer to work with and drop 4 dope albums in 2 years Iād say youāre crazy and where do I sign up for that