Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)

[Budda]

maybe, but what other producers tho? Who poppin? outside Alchemist

There’s one from Hitboy state who’s worked with Dom Kennedy, Big Sean Big Krit Nipsey SZA and produced ‘A lot’ for 21 Savage, and Money Trees for Kendrick..

DJ Dahi would be one I would like, he’s also worked with Nas before on Lost Tapes 2 co produced War Against Love with DJ Khalil.

 

[Mike Wins]

maybe, but what other producers tho? Who poppin? outside Alchemist

Cardo, Harry Fraud, Mike Will Made It, Jake One, Lee Major, could see any of them cooking up some heat with Nas. Bink and Statik too

 

[JustCKing]

If MJ worked with Quincy all his career he wouldn’t be as great as he was, it was refreshing to hear MJ with Teddy Riley then hear with him Rodney Jenkins, too much of even a good thing can get boring at times

Michael's work with Quincy is pretty much the defining albums of his career though. Dangerous and Invincible are dope, but if he never makes those albums he's still Michael Jackson.

 

[JustCKing]

In regard to the Nas/Timbaland collaboration, I feel like out of the music released, they didn't tap into each other's strengths. While I like "You Won't Me See Me Tonight", "Hot Boyz" remix, "To My" and even "You Owe Me", all of them are happy sounding songs. I feel like they had potential to create something special together. The dark, mysterious, mystical sounding Timbaland production meets the dark, mystique of Nas had potential. The unreleased snippet below tapped into that:



I don't think whatever Timbaland produced for Nas in that 2012-2014 period was forced. Nas called it powerful and Large Professor spoke highly of it even after being highly critical of past Nas/Timbaland collaborations. I think Nas simply sat on the music for too long, fell out of love with it, and moved on. I would still love to hear that project, but I'm not about to dismiss future installments of King's Disease just because I want to hear Nas rap on beats produced by my favorite producer. I could only hope that his work with Timbaland materializes as a part of a future Lost Tapes or at worst, it somehow leaks.

 

[Budda]

Michael's work with Quincy is pretty much the defining albums of his career though. Dangerous and Invincible are dope, but if he never makes those albums he's still Michael Jackson.

I know of course in regards to it being his best work, but in a modern sense for the 80’s and 90’s babies Invincible and Dangerous added a lot to his legacy, the reason he is as he great as he is is because his longevity and superstardom that spanned generations, 60’s kids grew up to his music, as did 70’s kids and 80’s and 90’s kids.

If he doesn’t have songs like Bad, Remember the time, You are Not Alone, Man in the Mirror, Way You Make Me Feel it doesn’t happen to be that, so although Quincys work is the Magnum Opus, he isn’t quite MJ if he doesn’t have Bad and Dangerous, Invincible is the least impactful album though.

 

[Budda]

In regard to the Nas/Timbaland collaboration, I feel like out of the music released, they didn't tap into each other's strengths. While I like "You Won't Me See Me Tonight", "Hot Boyz" remix, "To My" and even "You Owe Me", all of them are happy sounding songs. I feel like they had potential to create something special together. The dark, mysterious, mystical sounding Timbaland production meets the dark, mystique of Nas had potential. The unreleased snippet below tapped into that:



I don't think whatever Timbaland produced for Nas in that 2012-2014 period was forced. Nas called it powerful and Large Professor spoke highly of it even after being highly critical of past Nas/Timbaland collaborations. I think Nas simply sat on the music for too long, fell out of love with it, and moved on. I would still love to hear that project, but I'm not about to dismiss future installments of King's Disease just because I want to hear Nas rap on beats produced by my favorite producer. I could only hope that his work with Timbaland materializes as a part of a future Lost Tapes or at worst, it somehow leaks.

Funnily enough I love all those songs, I feel like looking back on his career You Owe Me Hot Boyz remix adds something a little extra to Nas legacy, they also dropped the ball not releasing a video for You Won’t See Me Tonight’ which really should have been a Top 40 hit IMO.

 

[JustCKing]

I know of course in regards to it being his best work, but in a modern sense for the 80’s and 90’s babies Invincible and Dangerous added a lot to his legacy, the reason he is as he great as he is is because his longevity and superstardom that spanned generations, 60’s kids grew up to his music, as did 70’s kids and 80’s and 90’s kids.

If he doesn’t have songs like Bad, Remember the time, You are Not Alone, Man in the Mirror, Way You Make Me Feel it doesn’t happen to be that, so although Quincys work is the Magnum Opus, he isn’t quite MJ if he doesn’t have Bad and Dangerous, Invincible is the least impactful album though.

The Bad album is also produced by Quincy Jones. Even without Dangerous or Invincible, that's still three MJ albums that are still impacting and influencing music far more than Dangerous or Invincible even though those are dope albums.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I just want to hear different vibes and producers.


I get that Nas doesn't want a bunch of samples with an independent label, so Hit Boy is the perfect producer for that regardless of their great chemistry. I'd prefer more collaboration, more producers, different sounds, and instruments instead of sound packs. Def still want Hit Boy involved and producing with Nas too, just...surprise me. Switch it up with someone else getting in the room too.

 

[ThirdAct]

In regard to the Nas/Timbaland collaboration, I feel like out of the music released, they didn't tap into each other's strengths. While I like "You Won't Me See Me Tonight", "Hot Boyz" remix, "To My" and even "You Owe Me", all of them are happy sounding songs. I feel like they had potential to create something special together. The dark, mysterious, mystical sounding Timbaland production meets the dark, mystique of Nas had potential. The unreleased snippet below tapped into that:



I don't think whatever Timbaland produced for Nas in that 2012-2014 period was forced. Nas called it powerful and Large Professor spoke highly of it even after being highly critical of past Nas/Timbaland collaborations. I think Nas simply sat on the music for too long, fell out of love with it, and moved on. I would still love to hear that project, but I'm not about to dismiss future installments of King's Disease just because I want to hear Nas rap on beats produced by my favorite producer. I could only hope that his work with Timbaland materializes as a part of a future Lost Tapes or at worst, it somehow leaks.

True but Hot Boyz is made softer because of Missy's singing, Eve and Q-Tip. If that had been a Nas solo I think it woulda been hard as fukk, especially with how gutter Esco was spitting on it.

You Won't See Me Tonight is one of Nas best female-centered songs IMO, between that, Black Girl Lost and Cherry Wine.

 

[Life is Good]

Nas fans are way to judgmental. If he works with other producers and it doesn’t live up to their standards they will be saying “Nas should of allowed Hitboy to produce this album.” Let Nas the artist cook bc I guarantee he knows what’s best for him musically better than anyone that is complaining. Trust Nas & Hit are not gone to give you same old sound. They will elevate their sound bc they know how to work well with each other. This is art for them. They already know what would be said about them working together and they DON’T CARE!

 

[ThirdAct]

There’s one from Hitboy state who’s worked with Dom Kennedy, Big Sean Big Krit Nipsey SZA and produced ‘A lot’ for 21 Savage, and Money Trees for Kendrick..

DJ Dahi would be one I would like, he’s also worked with Nas before on Lost Tapes 2 co produced War Against Love with DJ Khalil.

War Against Love is amazing, would definitely be down with Nas working with Dahi.

 

[Life is Good]

Some of y’all complaining and Nas or Hit hasn’t mentioned a word pertaining to KD4. Trust KD4 doesn’t exist. They will evolve the sound and series. RELAX!

 

[Ziggiy]

Nas fans are way to judgmental. If he works with other producers and it doesn’t live up to their standards they will be saying “Nas should of allowed Hitboy to produce this album.” Let Nas the artist cook bc I guarantee he knows what’s best for him musically better than anyone that is complaining. Trust Nas & Hit are not gone to give you same old sound. They will elevate their sound bc they know how to work well with each other. This is art for them. They already know what would be said about them working together and they DON’T CARE!

THANK YOU


Everybody thinks they know better than Nas when Nas HIMSELF done told us what it is in every interview, soundbite, and the songs themselves.

 

[Budda]

Nas fans are way to judgmental. If he works with other producers and it doesn’t live up to their standards they will be saying “Nas should of allowed Hitboy to produce this album.” Let Nas the artist cook bc I guarantee he knows what’s best for him musically better than anyone that is complaining. Trust Nas & Hit are not gone to give you same old sound. They will elevate their sound bc they know how to work well with each other. This is art for them. They already know what would be said about them working together and they DON’T CARE!

Every single fan on this forum is judgmental by the metric were on a hip hop forum, its not being judgmental its just discussion... Like every other thread.

 

[Budda]

True but Hot Boyz is made softer because of Missy's singing, Eve and Q-Tip. If that had been a Nas solo I think it woulda been hard as fukk, especially with how gutter Esco was spitting on it.

You Won't See Me Tonight is one of Nas best female-centered songs IMO, between that, Black Girl Lost and Cherry Wine.

Hot Boyz remix is a classic track regardless.