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No way in hell. MAYBE Magic. I get u not really feeling this album but some of the shyt yall saying is wild. The second half of WTF SMH bodies ur argument itself.
Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)
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HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
Some of y'all nikkaz opinions is
up in here
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White folks don’t fukk with 5 Heartbeats? Played Legit for my white homie, his reaction was “it’s alright, but that vocal sample was a bit much”. I felt like smacking fire out dude.
I know it’s a Blassic but I thought it had some crossover appeal. I bet if it was a Grease flip he woulda been hype.
I know it’s a Blassic but I thought it had some crossover appeal. I bet if it was a Grease flip he woulda been hype.
u mad son?
All Star
Yeh I agree with alot of this..
There's too many large gaps in the album where Nas is just saying the same old bravado shyt sprinkled with a couple gems that we've all heard before (tracks like once a man twice a child is dope though) .
And a lot of these hitboy beats are just starting to sound almost generic, the first half of the album doesn't blow me away at all pause.
It could just be that I'm fatigued from their partnership, some people say every KD album sounds different, I would say they only sound marginally different. The chemistry and formula is pretty much the same.
KD 1+2 just had highpoints that were very memorable where as alot of KD3 just sounds like if you put the basic bragadicous tracks together into one album.
Again, people lose their shyt on here when you don't say anything nas and hitboy do is instant classic.. But I'm just saying, albums like Roc and Alc had shyt on there I've never heard before and genuinely blew my mind. I feel like I had heard KD3 already on my first spin..
HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
They might want a different sound IDK I don't understand Nas fanbase at all. He has a certain segment that can't enjoy the music unless certain producers name attached to it
Make the EXACT same four albums and slap alchemist name on it and ya’ll would be creaming yall selves because for some reason ya’ll have been convinced that white boy makes the hardest shyt ever when its nothing different than what 95 Premo or 93 Pete Rock could do.
Hit Boy and Nas have literally made FOUR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SOUNDING albums and people are talking generic? Stop it. Thats fukking crazy talk.
Hit Boy’s production is tailer made to both update Nas’s style for a modern era while still keeping him comfortable and familiar with the boom bap elements from which he came. There is NO OTHER producer that has shown they can do that consistently with 2000’s era Nas except for Salaam Remi, and many of ya’ll bytched about him too.
Ya’ll gotta face and come to terms with the fact that Alchemist, Premo, Pete Rock, and those other “throwback” producers aren’t gettin the consistent inspiration, creativity, and PRODUCTIVITY out of Nas in 2022 that Hit Boy is. Their beats ain’t hittin like that. Period. Premo ain’t making Legit in 2022. He had 20 years to loop the Five Heartbeats and never thought about it. Alchemist ain’t chopping up Michael & Quincy, it ain’t in him. Whoever else ya’ll wanna name, they ain’t cooking up Thun. They ain’t pushing and challenging Nas to spit Beef. They ain’t winning Nas no Grammys or getting him his 16th Top Ten billboard charting album. They don’t have the sauce. Hit Boy DOES.
Accept it
Hit Boy and Nas have literally made FOUR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SOUNDING albums and people are talking generic? Stop it. Thats fukking crazy talk.
Hit Boy’s production is tailer made to both update Nas’s style for a modern era while still keeping him comfortable and familiar with the boom bap elements from which he came. There is NO OTHER producer that has shown they can do that consistently with 2000’s era Nas except for Salaam Remi, and many of ya’ll bytched about him too.
Ya’ll gotta face and come to terms with the fact that Alchemist, Premo, Pete Rock, and those other “throwback” producers aren’t gettin the consistent inspiration, creativity, and PRODUCTIVITY out of Nas in 2022 that Hit Boy is. Their beats ain’t hittin like that. Period. Premo ain’t making Legit in 2022. He had 20 years to loop the Five Heartbeats and never thought about it. Alchemist ain’t chopping up Michael & Quincy, it ain’t in him. Whoever else ya’ll wanna name, they ain’t cooking up Thun. They ain’t pushing and challenging Nas to spit Beef. They ain’t winning Nas no Grammys or getting him his 16th Top Ten billboard charting album. They don’t have the sauce. Hit Boy DOES.
Accept it
u mad son?
All Star
Alcs music sounds nothing like premo or Pete... Its literally his own sound.
Everytime nas and alc have linked up they've produced classics, every single time. More recently the track on megas new album and lost tapes 2. Hitboy and nas haven't made a better track than "tick tock" or "book of rhymes"
Man's are giving hitboy way too much credit. His production isnt as unique as people are making out.
The only edge hitboy has is that he can add a commercial flavour to the music, that's all. I could give a fukk if it appeals to new listeners or the wider audience. People act as if alchemist wasn't everywhere on the charts with bangers in the 2000s.
u mad son?
All Star
I think we all enjoyed the albums we just dont need 4 albums worth of the same chemistry.They might want a different sound IDK I don't understand Nas fanbase at all. He has a certain segment that can't enjoy the music unless certain producers name attached to it
Its not that hard to understand. Nas is the goat... Why would we want one producer taking all the real estate of his discog...i want to hear new styles.
I don't agree with every album sounding different... The overall sound might vary from gritty to soulful, that's about it. The actual sound is the same.
You crazy
KD3 is lyrically better than Magic too
Nas hasn’t unleashed his flow like this since LIG. His flow might be even more versatile on here than then….
Not counting LT2 cuz that was songs from over a 15 year period
Hit Boy is versatile and can go bring it on several different styles. He's given Mas every style to rap over from soulful to throwback NY to trap to drill to West Coast to songs you could even dance to. Alchemist is great, but he doesn't have that range. That's probably why we still haven't gotten an album with Premo as well. Nas is a multi dimensional MC and unless it's a producer who can do different types of styles or challenge him to do different flows, the likelihood of an entire album with a producer who can't provide that is probably low.
Commercial flavor has nothing to do with it. Alchemist has never been everywhere on the charts.
Actually your giving Alchemist too much credit. Your harkening back to Book Of Rhymes and Tick Tock, songs from 2002. OLD shyt.
Nas worked with Alchemist just three years ago on Lost Tapes 2. It Never Ends. Great song. Public reaction was crickets…
Pete Rock got not one, but TWO songs on the same album. Crickets
Nas worked with DJ Premier THIS year. Crickets
Nas work with Hit Boy generates charting singles (Spicy, EPMD 2, Nobody)
Nas work with Hit Boy generates acclaim, sales, and awards. Nas is about to perform a Kings Disease ONLY concert at Madison Square Garden. Nobody is going to be clamoring for an Alchemist only set
And most IMPORTANTLY, Nas work with Hit Boy generates CONSISTENCY. 4 albums in three years is unheard of for Nas. Hit Boy gives Nas the production that feeds his inner desire to actually RAP.
Alchemist has provided NONE of that. Cause he ain’t that guy. His beats ain’t them beats. Hit Boy deserves all the credit in the world for lighting a fire in Nas pen that Alchemist and others failed to do.
Alchemist lane is for rappers who want to make the music Nas already made twenty years ago. Hit Boy’s lane is for a fresher, adaptable, diverse sound that be both uniform and dynamic over the course of an entire project. Hit Boy>>>>>Alchemist in 2022. That just is what it is
u mad son?
All Star
I think you're forgetting that alcs project with gibbs was Grammy nominated though, King's disease only won because they had to give nas one, KD1 was not better than Alfredo at all. And alc has been more consistent than hitboy has for over a decade now.
Again, alcs music sounds nothing like nas ever made 20 years ago, I dunno if you've really taken in his new shyt.
But I agree with what your saying in terms of hitboy having the commercial appeal. I personally don't give a shyt about chart success but if hitboy is bringing nas and good hip hop to the charts, good for him.
I'm just saying nas would make a better project with alchemist, fukk chart appeal, I don't listen to music because of where it is on the popularity list. Every collab album alc has ever done is fukking flames and everyone knows this. He's worked with mad different styles also.
Everytime alc made a project with P it was a classic, you telling me he's not gonna lace nas like he always does?
Has anyone ever called his punk ass out for the Jay Z stanning and Nas hate?
Glorious and It Never Ends aren't even in the stratosphere of classic Nas songs. People weren't even really fukking with those songs like that.
I dig both songs but the general reaction to Glorious was "that's cool, but where is KD3?"
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