Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)
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That's Chuck Strangers on that beat not Statik. The sample had the horn, bass, and drums. He added drums on top to beef it up.
how does 2 separate samples from 2 separate sources explain his "cheap sound" wu for the children sounds like a cheap casio melody to you? the 2 shyts are nothing alike....
and there's no rules to sampling he can sample from wherever and he does. you telling me legit sounds like nikkaz in paris?
you bugging cuz he sampled that lil riff for nikkaz in paris
Ignore the Casio remark and use the Get Light horns compared to the example Piff used or compare Wu For the Children to another drumless soul loop.
Yes, you can sample anything but we're talking about how things sound. If you sample a late 60's soul record and not add drums it's not going to sound clean like the sample pack loop for Wu. One sounds full while the other is hollow in comparison.
If you don't notice the difference or just don't care then fine. Most people don't analyze production to that degree. Some of us do and are just critiquing the finer points in the music.
then your complaint is about his sample selection... he's not making those sounds. the way you are phrasing that isn't making sense.
if he is taking sounds from any and everywhere and they end up sounding thin then it's his process. if you say they sound thin before he uses them then you don't like his sample selection... which one is it?
I never see y’all get this nitpicky about any other producer’s beats. shyt is weird to be honest. What difference does any of this make of the result is a dope ass song?
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yesiambowling
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Lol, Hit sampled Charlie Wilson's voice from a MySpace video on KDII. I don't see any limitations in his mind for sample sources, so why not use a sample pack?
(A good part of this is probably timing and economics. It's faster and chaeper to get approval from the sample pack creators than flipping it from an old record and waiting for approval.)
(A good part of this is probably timing and economics. It's faster and chaeper to get approval from the sample pack creators than flipping it from an old record and waiting for approval.)
It's both.
What he chose to sample was thin and his process didn't add anything to make it sound full.
That's a flat out lie.
9th Wonder has been criticized for using the same snare for years. Not the overall beat just the snare. Madlib got criticism for adding too much noise, Daringer for using the same drum patterns, Alchemist for boring drumless loops, etc. You thinking this is the only album thread where a producer gets criticism or it's only reserved for Hit Boy is absurd.
A song being dope is subjective and no one said he's a wack producer.
right..lmaoYou act like Nas out here just chilling with nothing to do
nygga invested in over a 100 companies now. Restaurants, Hip Hop 50, etc...
we comparing his life to Cormega? lol (not knocking Mega in no way shape or form)
Will never get why fans care more about promo than the artist himself. Been clear from day one Nas never been real comfortable doing promos and interviews and he experienced plenty commercial success anyway. At this stage he content doing a few videos and mostly letting the music speak for itself
That's why I never bought that fan account was truly in the camp or had any say. Blaming the fans and saying Nas ain't dropping more music til KD1 and 2 do more sales then we get Magic and KD3 within a year. Dude has not moved like someone overly concerned with sales on any of these releases. shyt they didn't even offer Magic physicals or do videos until months after it dropped
That's why I never bought that fan account was truly in the camp or had any say. Blaming the fans and saying Nas ain't dropping more music til KD1 and 2 do more sales then we get Magic and KD3 within a year. Dude has not moved like someone overly concerned with sales on any of these releases. shyt they didn't even offer Magic physicals or do videos until months after it dropped
He openly admit to using sample packs in addition to traditional samples and composing beats from scratch
The artist gonna choose the beat and there's financial concerns with traditional samples. Artist may not want to give up part of their publishing or pay to clear it so they stay away from those. Nas exist in a weird space there, he don't got a label clearance department or budget to clear samples, but he high profile enough where using unauthorized samples not gonna fly under the radar. A lot of them Daringer and Alchemist samples show up on releases that's under the radar and selling minimal amounts, it's not even worth it for the rights holders to enforce or they never even find out
Hit and Benny tried to sneak one through on Burden of Proof and they had to pull it and replace the beat on streaming
Alexander Wiggin
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If he still have time to make albums and go on tour I'm pretty sure he have time to sit down for an interview and promote an album. It's no different than the Bridge podcast he was making. He's an entrepreneur not a full time ceo. His businesses pretty much runs without him being present. He must just go to meetings for time to time
If you say he don't want to do it that's one thing. But it's not because he's too busy to do it
And to some of the ppl saying why he didn't do much promo for the album, I think he hates doing that shyt plus I recall a couple albums he dropped with no promo at all (like the first Lost tapes, he dropped a commercial and that was it). He did Trevor Noah and some other stuff but it's clear he's not about doing numbers, just delivering music to his core fanbase
Prolific_1011
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Being wealthy + being extremely passionate about Hip Hop culture + being considered by many to be the G.O.A.T. (his legacy is beyond cemented) = dropping albums without a media tour or a care for an extra 30k in sales that his pockets won't even notice.
There really hasn't been anyone like him in Hip Hop, so we're essentially trying to find the logic in something we've never seen before.
There really hasn't been anyone like him in Hip Hop, so we're essentially trying to find the logic in something we've never seen before.
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Alexander Wiggin
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I was just responding to those you said he don't do promo because he don't have time. Personnally I don't care if he do promo or not as long as the music is fire, which is the case, sales mean nothing to me at this point. My problem comes from the girl sayin it's nas' fans fault if that album don't have more numbers when nothin was made to proper promote it
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InstantKlassik
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Psycho stans arguing with themselves about what Nas should be doing with his life after almost 30 years 
And fools arguing about Hit-boy’s beats. You know the haters had to find something to not like
eat a dikk at this point.
And fools arguing about Hit-boy’s beats. You know the haters had to find something to not like
eat a dikk at this point.