Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)

[CoolinInTheCut]

Joe was bugging on today's podcast talking about we havent seen Nas black out on a song in a long time (Parks said since Echo).

Did he not hear songs like The Truth, Mike and Quincey, etc or is this just Hovenger Joe tryna downplay Nas like usual

 

[JoelB]

Mike & Coop have said that for years about 3k they can't rank him top 10 anything because the work just isn't there. It's much easier to have those when you put out 2 verses every 3 years. Add to it where are the 3 verse songs with hooks included? shyt makes you think he an amazing MC but that is factual. Prodigy Raekwon have those Ghostface hell even Big Boi has those

Exactly. Nas gives you 4 fire projects in 2 years

Would you rather he give you 1 fire flex freestyle instead? Lol

That’s why I can’t put Andre in the goat talk or gotta check Jada fans sometimes.

It’s cool to body a feature, it’s damn near impossible to release a classic solo project. Not many people can do it. Nas is doing that shyt over and over again

That’s why he is Goat

 

[John Mexico]

Joe was bugging on today's podcast talking about we havent seen Nas black out on a song in a long time (Parks said since Echo).

Did he not hear songs like The Truth or is this just Hovenger Joe tryna downplay Nas like usual

I think he's in the minority that KD1 was best up to that point, vibes like Car 85 he says are the best Nas, which yeah, not a bad opinion, although I've always preferred dumb out Nas... One Mic, Queens Get the Money, Rare, Michael and Quincy etc

There's gotta be a story with Ish however. I couldn't stand Jay when I was young and I believe he fell upwards post RD/BIG murder and along with cockiness and insecurity that followed Ether, but I can appreciate his greatness and immortality as an artist... but Ish? It's always sounded personal

that era of tristate hip hop fan has always seen Jay as a father figure. And bigging up Nas he sees as shytting on daddy lol

 

[HNIC973]

I been saying this for years.

I would expect you to feel that way because you make music, I'm just a listener . Coop was like one of his friends told him "nikka do you realize you actually put more work in than 3k" writing 3 verses hook included. He in duo by the 5th song on a Outkast album he got 5 verses solo MC's got 15 big differences in work

 

[JustCKing]

At this point, I really don't see any reasoning behind comparing Nas to other rappers. He's at a different level at this stage. There's Nas and then everybody else. We're really comparing current Nas to different eras of Nas. That's no disrespect to other rappers, but has anyone other MC, especially of the caliber of Nas put out 4 consecutive projects of the quality of the KD series and Magic at this stage.

Andre 3000 is my second favorite rapper ever (Nas is #1) and if he put out four albums on the level of the KD series and Magic, there would be no arguments about him being GOAT. Even if he delivered something on the level of Magic and it was just 9 songs, I could see people losing their minds and he'd be elevated to GOAT on the strength of it.

If Jay came with another series and was on the level of the KD series, we'd be talking about how no one is on Jay's level.

 

[thekidfromqueens]

Anyone think 30 was from the magic sessions? The hook just seemed like it fit with that album more than kd3.

 

[spliz]

I would expect you to feel that way because you make music, I'm just a listener . Coop was like one of his friends told him "nikka do you realize you actually put more work in than 3k" writing 3 verses hook included. He in duo by the 5th song on a Outkast album he got 5 verses solo MC's got 15 big differences in work

Bro I used to be in a group and I been telling nikkas it’s a WHOLE different ballgame to drop projects.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Joe was bugging on today's podcast talking about we havent seen Nas black out on a song in a long time (Parks said since Echo).

Did he not hear songs like The Truth, Mike and Quincey, etc or is this just Hovenger Joe tryna downplay Nas like usual

Even when Joe give Nas props, his opinions are drenched in his Jay worship to the point you have to @ him

 

[bigde09]

If you ever wanted to see what the cornballs who only want Illmatic producers look like!

Nas is the only rapper judged like this. I love and hate Illmatic.

 

[Dylmatic]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

If you ever wanted to see what the cornballs who only want Illmatic producers look like!

anytime you see someone talking about wanting Nas over 90s boom-bap, you already know what time they're on with his music with hit-boy

 

[Ukbrotha]

My first listen of Thun.

I couldn't get past it. I had to repeat 3 times before moving on.

My goat brehs. He did it again

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I’ve never truly understood how “sales” work nowadays either. Nas has the number 1 album over Taylor Swift, Drake & 21 London, Bruce Sprinsteen, and The Black Panther Soundtrack. Physicals available on his website. Number 2 on Amazon. And yet he’s only projected to 8K in “pure” sales?

Number 4 on Apple Music. Top 5 on Spotify. And that translates to only 28k?

Just weird.

Tik Tok is the other element of influence on these sales....

 

[Pop123]

 

[erker]

Top 5 for this album got to be
Hood2hood
Legit
Beef
Ghetto reporter
Thun

For me:
Thun
Michael & Quincy
30
WTF SMH
Beef