Nas - King's Disease III (Discussion Thread)

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Why are yall upset Hot 97 is having the same discussions we are having in this thread? :what:

Is Kd3 a top 5 Nas album?
Rosenberg is saying that the analytics are showing that KD3 is trending and is in fact one of Nas' best projects.
Ebro got several tweets biggin up Nas...

This is the clickbait era...of course nikkas gonna be talking bout 21...nikkas like controversy. There might be a 16 year old right now who never heard Nas but is now on his radar bc 21 talked about him

whats the issue?

Right some people don’t understand marketing that’s exactly what’s happened thousands of people not knowing Nas had dropped an album some fans are now aware of this fact, if you’re going to come in here talking about sales understand that the publicity and controversy is a good thing, especially when it relates to a high quality product, all it does is draw more attention to the album.

Nas even says this on his own very album.
 

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Right some people don’t understand marketing that’s exactly what’s happened thousands of people not knowing Nas had dropped an album some fans are now aware of this fact, if you’re going to come in here talking about sales understand that the publicity and controversy is a good thing, especially when it relates to a high quality product, all it does is draw more attention to the album.

Nas even says this on his own very album.
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brehs gotta stop acting like GOAT aint above embracing fukkery :mjlol:


Now you got Charlamagne and Envy name dropping KD3 and saying its fire...on top of Akademiks and Kodak coming out saying they're fans of the gawd.

Keep the computers 'putin

*now back to our regularly scheduled programming*

I need a video Reminisce :noah:
 

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Son u called Donda a masterpiece. An over and underproduced. Unfocused, bloated, 30 something song album with multiple versions of the same songs and songs that sound like demos. Called an album that’s littered with dirt a masterpiece. Yes. To each his own. Lol
You just talking shyt to talk shyt :laff:

I did not call DONDA a masterpiece, wasn't even my favorite album from that year.

Coming off the high now …..


I think I’m going to settle in on a 7.9

A good album thats way too long, feature heavy and some ideas not flushed out

But his best work since TLOP


So far this year I like HWH 8 better

Call me if you get Lost

J cole maybe slightly...eh maybe about the same

If Nas would of kept that Store Run to Moments to Nobody momentum the whole record then I would say that, but it didn't and I settled on liking Kings Disease 1 quite a bit more.


My exact review. This is strictly about HitBoy nobody else
 

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You just talking shyt to talk shyt :laff:

I did not call DONDA a masterpiece, wasn't even my favorite album from that year.

Coming off the high now …..


I think I’m going to settle in on a 7.9

A good album thats way too long, feature heavy and some ideas not flushed out

But his best work since TLOP


So far this year I like HWH 8 better

Call me if you get Lost

J cole maybe slightly...eh maybe about the same

If Nas would of kept that Store Run to Moments to Nobody momentum the whole record then I would say that, but it didn't and I settled on liking Kings Disease 1 quite a bit more.


My exact review. This is strictly about HitBoy nobody else
It’s dirt bro.
 

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Pete Rock responds


Found it:

The music industry is notorious for breaking up relationships. Friendships and family ties have went down in the ball of flames due to the inner strife that the industry is sickened with. The dynamic duo of Pete Rock & CL Smooth is no different. Pete Rock, one of Hip-Hops most celebrated underground producers, recently went on a riotous rampage against his partner in rhyme, unveiling to the world that the relationship fans figured to be rock solid was cracked at the seams.

As fans will find out shortly, CL Smooth is not the type of man to keep quiet when rivalry approaches. While on the comeback trail after years of hiatus, CL has returned to set the record straight about his strained partnership with his former producer. In one of Allhiphop.coms most angry and curse-laden conversations ever, CL Smooth steps forth to send a message to Pete Rock that is sure to cause some controversy. Fasten your seatbelts!

Allhiphop.com: You recently did a performance at the Peace & Unity Fest in Toronto. Speak on that experience and exactly what happened there.

CL Smooth: It was a good weekend, man. I performed for 25,000 people at the Splashfest, and it was just incredible. It was a good look. I really loved the experience and I hope to do it again next year.

Allhiphop.com: What songs did you get on stage and perform for those 25,000 people in attendance?

CL Smooth: I performed my new single that Im trying to promote, called Love Thing. The B-side is called Appreciate, and Im trying to promote that. Those are the two current singles that I can perform on my own. Of course, I performed the essentials, so in all, there was about 13 or 14 records that I did.

Allhiphop.com: In your opinion, has your lyrical flow changed at all over the years? Cats that are in the game for over ten years tend to grow and mature with their sound.

CL Smooth: Lyrically, I have evolved because of the maturity and the growth process. You dont normally stay artistically at one phase. Normally, if you elevate your game and youre serious about your game, itll grow. I just nurtured it with the time I spent off. I nurtured my craft, kept it sharp, and kept it attentive so that Im able to step in, be productive, and perform the way I need to perform.

Allhiphop.com: Who do you feel as the sickest flows in Hip-Hop right now? It does not matter if they wrote the rhymes themselves or if they have a ghostwriter.

CL Smooth: Right now, you have to look at the 50s of the world, on down to the Talib Kwelis, you have Fabolous on down to Black Thought. Im very conscious of the music and what brands are out there. I recognize and see it because of how Rap has grown. Its not only in New York or LA; its a whole movement going on outside. You have Outkast giving you an opportunity to see Lil Jon and all types of Rap start to emerge and hold court. I learn to recognize the different genres and different flows, and thats what makes Rap competitive.

Allhiphop.com: In Jadakisss new song, Why, he made the statement that the Rap game is designed to keep artists broke. From your different experiences in this business, do you think that there is some truth to that?

CL Smooth: Well, I feel its like any job. You get a check, but its what you do with that check. Everybody gets paid, man. At the end of the day, there has to be somebody on your side that makes you understand that you need to put something away for a rainy f***ing day!

Allhiphop.com: Rappers seem to want to floss Maybachs and $500,000 necklaces more than they think about the future.

CL Smooth: That whole jewelry is another saga to the Rap game. That s**t is un-added pressure. N***as aint relating to your inside, they are relating to your exterior. What make me a man are the choices I make. Im going to make the choice to [show that] the diamonds I wear are on the inside. You cant blame or fault them, though. When these dudes go from nothing into one million, its like Go freak off, daddy! I did it, too. I spent $500 everyday for two years straight. But, at some point and time, you got to put the brakes on. You have to say to yourself, F*** Jordan and Jacob, what about my enterprise?

Allhiphop.com: Do you wish to comment on some of things that Pete Rock has been saying lately?

CL Smooth: If youre not here to help, f*** you! Dont act like Im a cancer or a parasite. Im not jealous of you! I would never be jealous of nobody with one car and one garage. Im trying to get four cars and four garages! What is the matter with you? Come back home. Im building houses where I sold crack at. So, dont tell me that I havent changed into a better man. Im not going to allow the negative s**t to display and take the forefront because its too hard to come back in the game after ten years and talk s**t to a n***a like me. I dont even let them street n***as talk to me like that. The biggest record on Pete Rocks album is from CL Smooth. I dont have to make it upask my hood! Im not the toughest n***a; Im just more serious than the average man. It shows in my music, my discipline, and my enthusiasm. All of my enthusiasm is catered toward what Im trying to build and what these n***as remember about CL and Pete Rock. Im keeping that legacy alive. How are you going to do thirty shows with me and then tell me you dont need me? Come on, you never had packed shows until you were with CL! You are fresh off the block, youre getting all these shows and all this money, but you dont need me? You need me. Im telling you to come back home, but come home with a business mind and a plan. Kamikazes never had any plans but crash! The thing about me is Im diplomatic because I know that overkill is overkill. A lot of times, a n***a is so scared he kills himself, man. I was just here to save that n***a, man because his spirit was broken. He stopped combing his hair and brushing his teeth, and I said to him, Man, theres a bigger light than that. I told him to dust himself off and lets get it. I just asked him to do his job. Do your job, Pete Rock! I didnt ask him to be a superhero; I asked that n***a to make me a beat. How did you get to be you if you didnt make CL any beats? Give me a beat, shut the f*** up, and stop trying to live my life for me. Give me the beat n***a, and let me go out here and please our public! Im not the problem. The problem was getting your ass on that plane and displaying what you are truly gifted at. Why be a rapper when theres no future in it for you? You are a wack ass rapper. Lets be honest!

Allhiphop.com: He did an interview with us back in May, and he hinted that you could not make it on your own. Do you want to respond to that or not?

CL Smooth: Thats his opinion, and he could never say that to me personally. If thats how Pete Rock lives his life, talking through the media, go ahead. I love you anyway. It takes a whole lot to be me, so I imagine it takes ten times more to be you. He knows me and his family knows me. They know how I get down. True indeed, I smack n***as heads off their shoulders! If you want to talk on the swings and talk s**t to your peers, that s**t doesnt bother CL. It bothers CL when you lie and create a false image. Snoop Dogg said, Come holla at me, homie, you know I love you. How does Snoop love me and my n***a Pete dont love me? How does Raekwon, Method Man, and the whole f***ing Wu-Tang Clan talk about how they really love me and Pete Rock dont love me? I walked on blocks that Pete Rock can never walk on. Pete Rock, I love you baby. Ive got nothing to be ashamed of. I got a good woman and a good life, so what should I be ashamed of? Pete Rock cant ever disrespect me and not get his head smacked off. He can never say that to my face. I love him anyway. All Im asking him to do is do the beats. The proof is there. CL Smooth is the biggest s**t on your project and you are a walking contradiction, man. We dont have to sling no more mud. Make my beats, ******! Stop playing games and throwing rocks at the dome. How are you going to say without you, Im not going to make it? You got to say that about yourself. Thats kind of scary, because you are basically saying that Im going to drown myself trying to drown this n***a. Pete Rock doesnt have to talk to me. Make my beats though! Ill cut you a check, you go in the studio, and make my f*cking beats, man. I dont see anything else happening if you dont facilitate CL Smooth.

Allhiphop.com: Is there any kind of positive spin that you can add to this whole situation?

CL Smooth: I just want people to hear the truth, man. If I was dogging that brother like he says, half of this s**t wouldnt have happened. He wouldnt have an album out! At the end of the day, whats marketable? You dont have any new n***as on that sh*t thats pulling some cargo and making the company ship out some joints, man. Get some n***as that push some weight instead of these light n***as that only YOU get along with. Those sucker ass meatball n***as! I gave Pete Rock what he wanted; now hes got to give me back. After that, the chapters closed. You can juggle fruit stands for all I give a f***! Pete Rock aint even the cakehes the icing! Im smooth, but I dog n***as when they play me out of pocket, man! I go to the toughest barbershop in my town where n***as get shot in the barbers chair! I wont make it? Man, my woman has more money than Pete Rock! Thats the truth, and she holds me down impeccably! My woman is like, F*** Pete Rock! Pete Rock thinks hes the catalyst to this s**t. Pete Rock needs to play his f***ing role! Hes a spoke in the motherf*cking wheel! He better wake up quick because this world is not big and he will run into me. You will see me. By no means will I sit at home for another ten years and watch a f****t like you prosper! I take his beats and dog them out; thats what I do. Thats what Im built for. I take his beats and take them to the f***ing hemisphere! Im trying to give the people what they want. Let Pete Rock know to stop throwing rocks at the dome because we will knock your teeth the f*** out! I love you, Pete Rock. Stop being a ****** and do your job.

Just to make this thread even more classic than it is, I'm gonna leave this here

Pete Rock = Not a snitch


Combat Jack's Top 5 gulliest moments he's experienced first hand in the music industry (that you won't hear about anywhere else on the whole effin planet but here)

#4 . Pete Rock Is Not A Snitch

Back around 1993, Pete Rock was God in the greater New York City area. He was in one of the hottest rap groups (Pete Rock & CL Smooth (although I never understood whut the eff CL was saying)), he was producing hits for everyone (RUN DMC, Nas, etc.).

Around that time, a lot of of music industry players came from the Northern town of Mount Vernon (Puffy, Heavy D and the Boyz, Pete and CL). Anyways, Pete at the time, being the good dude that he is, was trying to put a local rap group called the the YG'z (short for “Young Gunz”) on. He provided these dudes with a lil cash, supplied them with ample beats and even got them a record deal with either Uptown or MCA. The problem was that these cats were really turrible. In addition, these dudes were all like ex-cons or professional crooks or some shyt like that and they had no reason being in the music industry. Their single comes out and it effin stinks like cabbage and chitlins stew, they get dropped and start leaning on Pete. I guess they figure Pete's gonna continue funding them, “riding” with them or whatever the fukk real thugs think they man's an 'em is supposed to do. Pete, however, realizes that these cats were a bad investment of time and energy and summarily cuts them off.

That summer, I attended a “Mt. Vernon Family Day” picnic. It was one of those picturesque days (like in a music video) and everyone was there enjoying Heavy D's special barbeque chicken and ribs. Pete, with chicken in hand, is rapping to this dime piece on her huge picnic blanket when the YG'z. show up. One of 'em requests Pete's attention and when Pete gets up to talk, the YG knocks Pete Rock in the jaw with an uppercut, catapulting dude clean over the huge ass picnic blanket. The chick is screaming, cats are scrambling to get out of there, Pete is convulsing on the ground with barbeque sauce all over his bright yellow Cross Colours jersey (cause he's knocked the fukk out) and the YG'z are rifling through his pockets Debo style. Heav and the rest of the “Mt. Vernon” crew don't say shyt (I guesss because the YG'z were really that gully). Pete then gets up, recovers immediately and sprints, OJ-style, across the picnic grounds with the YG'z on his tail (no homo).

From what I understand, this shyt went on for a while. A few months later (winter), I was on my way to attend some music industry black tie event. When I get to the venue, I see Pete running the fukk my way in a tuxedo. I move out of dude's way and a few seconds later, I see the YG'z (not in tuxedo) running after him. Where I'm going with this is that during the entire time that dudes are hazing Pete (let's say a period of like 9 months), Pete never contacts the authorities. He took his multiple beatdowns and terrorizings like a man. He may be a lot of things, but the Soul Brother #1 aint a snitch.
 
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