Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

Piff Perkins

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I said LIG was his last hurrah breh
You said it was fading there and I disagreed, that album is quite strong on the introspection front. And I feel these last two are strong in general.

I’d argue KD2 is essentially Nas returning to that LIG level. Not just lyrically but his flow is elevated here, even over the first album.
 

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You said it was fading there and I disagreed, that album is quite strong on the introspection front. And I feel these last two are strong in general.

I’d argue KD2 is essentially Nas returning to that LIG level. Not just lyrically but his flow is elevated here, even over the first album.
Serious question

why do u think Nas fell off popularity wise?
 

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You said it was fading there and I disagreed, that album is quite strong on the introspection front. And I feel these last two are strong in general.

I’d argue KD2 is essentially Nas returning to that LIG level. Not just lyrically but his flow is elevated here, even over the first album.

You're talking to someone who prolly didn't even listen to KDII
 

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Serious question

why do u think Nas fell off popularity wise?

Compared to who? Jay his only contemporary who sells more, and his music been significantly more commercial than Nas's from 1998 forward. Nobody else from that era is selling more than Nas in 2021 unless Dre actually comes out of retirement
 

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Serious question

why do u think Nas fell off popularity wise?

Decision making that didn’t fit where rap was heading or what much of his fanbase wanted to hear at the time. When the south began to take over and Wayne/TI/Jeezy ascended, New York was in a bad spot in general. Whereas most NY rappers tried and failed to ride that southern wave Nas said fukk that and did his own thing. 50 went down and that NY market just imploded (and never recovered IMO). Jay was the only survivor, popularity wise. In large part thanks to Kanye but that’s another convo.

Nas wasn’t making club music, he wasn’t hitting the streets with anthems like he had done from Illmatic thru SD, and rap just moved on. And yet he’s still out here winning Grammys and getting noteworthy features. Seems like he won in the long term, despite the popularity dive,

What do you think it was? If you’re gonna be here you shouldn’t troll. Let’s here your argument, I’m curious.
 

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KD2 is definitely more lyrical and has deeper verses. But I definitely feel like KD has less skippable songs (none for me).

Love both albums

We had Distant Relatives and LIG for most of the 2010's to listen to recent Nas material. Excited to have KD and KD2 (hey hopefully more too) for the 2020s. Definitely a lot of replay value
 

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It was supposed to be a single but both Nas and Columbia moved the marketing budget to Nastradamus. Remember Illmatic had four music videos. It Was Written had three music videos. The I am/Nastradamus era had four videos in total.

so they scrapped you won’t see me tonight so we could get you owe me as a single and video instead? Terrible call.
 
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Nas makes music for me as I’m heading into my 30s soon. No trends, no memes, no pandering. Just pure adult, human lyrics. Clear, reflective & to the point. He isn’t lowering the reading grade for me.

We really have to stop rating hip hop solely in the context of how youth react to it. Hip hop is aging & so are its listeners
 
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