Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

[TheDarceKnight]

Thats why its important for Nas to say “fukk the Fans” and follow his own heart. Large Professor ain’t making beats like THIS in 2021. Nas got not one but TWO dope ass beats from Pete Rock in 2019 and the songs and project got shyt on. Premier has been stuck on the same sound since 2005. Every rapper 9th Wonder works on a full project with not named Rapsody can’t stand him. Alchemist lowkey is nothing more than vanilla Madlib and the ACTUAL Madlib struggles to get projects released because he can’t even remember what samples he’s using…




The fact of the matter is that the ONLY producer you listed capable of giving Nas a fresh sound thats tailored so perfectly to his flow and strengths IS ironically enough Kanye West. And when Kanye got HIS chance he went full retard and fumbled the ball.


Nas choosing Hit Boy was a stroke of pure artistic genius, and Nas should be commended JUST like he was wisely selected the production group for Illmatic. Nas has had some of the greatest foresight in Hip Hop history. Linking up with MC Serch. Linking up with Steve Stoute. Allowing the Trackmasters to handle the bulk of the production on It Was Written. The IDEA of The Firm (even if the end result was mixed) Not rushing headfirst into the battle with Jay and being strategic enough to engage Hov when NAS had the advantage. Working with Will I Am on Hip Hop Is Dead. Hiring Anthony Selah as his manager. Soooo many great industry decisions he’s made over the course of thirty years.

Dope post but I do think you went a little hard on some of those other producers. I think Primo, Pete, Large Pro, and Al are all really dope in 2021 still. Just not the best fit for a full Nas project.

And I don’t think there was anything wrong with fans saying what they’d have liked at the time.

 

[up in here]

Nas n jay is the correct answer
They gon be neck n neck till grave

444 was dope

And if y'all think jay about to drop some weak shyt n let Nas further distance himself, y'all not paying attention

*nas my goat since 94
Took that shyt from Redman

But you already know Jay’s style, he follows up his good albums with weak ones.

 

[spliz]

Dope post but I do think you went a little hard on some of those other producers. I think Primo, Pete, Large Pro, and Al are all really dope in 2021 still. Just not the best fit for a full Nas project.

Basically how I feel.

 

[areohbee824]

No skips, only repeat on numerous tracks

 

[Robbie3000]

Nas wrote, produced, and did the voice over narration for an Emmy award winning documentary on amputee soccer players in Africa. He’s got PLENTY of artistic outlets if he so desires.

Im not dissing the Gawd. But those are one off projects. It’s not like he did a Boyz n The Hood and followed it up with a Friday resulting in music becoming the side gig.

 

[Ball]

Oculus VR that’s how I see shyt

 

[ChiTownGuevera]

I still cant get over Lauryn Hill's verse, its glorious

this is how you renegade a song unlike that bullshyt mumbo jumbo extra shyt Eminem was on..


Nobody is my favorite song so far...too many options to pick from lol this is definitely Album of the year

 

[BantuKnotz99]

It don’t matter who it was… Jay/Kendrick/AZ/Mega/Lupe/Cole I think we can all agree we’d rather have any of the aforementioned over 2021 Eminem

No lie bro..aye I just listened in full...its a hit!!!

 

[Maximus Rex]

I like this better than the first King's Disease

 

[Artfull Dodger]

Thats why its important for Nas to say “fukk the Fans” and follow his own heart. Large Professor ain’t making beats like THIS in 2021. Nas got not one but TWO dope ass beats from Pete Rock in 2019 and the songs and project got shyt on. Premier has been stuck on the same sound since 2005. Every rapper 9th Wonder works on a full project with not named Rapsody can’t stand him. Alchemist lowkey is nothing more than vanilla Madlib and the ACTUAL Madlib struggles to get projects released because he can’t even remember what samples he’s using…

The fact of the matter is that the ONLY producer you listed capable of giving Nas a fresh sound thats tailored so perfectly to his flow and strengths IS ironically enough Kanye West. And when Kanye got HIS chance he went full retard and fumbled the ball.

Nas choosing Hit Boy was a stroke of pure artistic genius, and Nas should be commended JUST like he was wisely selected the production group for Illmatic. Nas has had some of the greatest foresight in Hip Hop history. Linking up with MC Serch. Linking up with Steve Stoute. Allowing the Trackmasters to handle the bulk of the production on It Was Written. The IDEA of The Firm (even if the end result was mixed) Not rushing headfirst into the battle with Jay and being strategic enough to engage Hov when NAS had the advantage. Working with Will I Am on Hip Hop Is Dead. Hiring Anthony Selah as his manager. Soooo many great industry decisions he’s made over the course of thirty years.

Im a Large Pro fan and i agree. His beat on the Lox album last year was ....

 

[HNIC973]

Stop shytting on legends to big up Hit Boy shyt is unnecessary

 

[dubsmith_nz]

Jay's my favorite rapper ever, but after LT2, KD, and especially KD2....I dunno.

I thought Jay had the better albums in the mid-stages of their careers, but I kind of think Nas has pulled ahead in recent years. Unpopular opinion, but I really didn't think Jay sounded that smooth on Written Testimony, and I think Nas is in a really dope creative space. Nas has also been releasing a lot more music than Jay in recent years.

I'm with you bro. Jay is GOAT to me but Nas since Life Is Good has lapped him in terms of quality albums.

 

[Pegasus Jackson]

I think what people to fail to realize is that the Eminem verse is technically proficient but it's on the opposite end of the spectrum of the vibe and tone of the song and that's pretty much been the collective compliant about Eminem for the last decade. Yes, he still "has it" but he doesn't know how to ride the pocket. It's not 1998 or even 2003.

 

[deeznutz]

Store Run fukking goes

 

[The Message]

Thats why its important for Nas to say “fukk the Fans” and follow his own heart. Large Professor ain’t making beats like THIS in 2021. Nas got not one but TWO dope ass beats from Pete Rock in 2019 and the songs and project got shyt on. Premier has been stuck on the same sound since 2005. Every rapper 9th Wonder works on a full project with not named Rapsody can’t stand him. Alchemist lowkey is nothing more than vanilla Madlib and the ACTUAL Madlib struggles to get projects released because he can’t even remember what samples he’s using…




The fact of the matter is that the ONLY producer you listed capable of giving Nas a fresh sound thats tailored so perfectly to his flow and strengths IS ironically enough Kanye West. And when Kanye got HIS chance he went full retard and fumbled the ball.


Nas choosing Hit Boy was a stroke of pure artistic genius, and Nas should be commended JUST like he was wisely selected the production group for Illmatic. Nas has had some of the greatest foresight in Hip Hop history. Linking up with MC Serch. Linking up with Steve Stoute. Allowing the Trackmasters to handle the bulk of the production on It Was Written. The IDEA of The Firm (even if the end result was mixed) Not rushing headfirst into the battle with Jay and being strategic enough to engage Hov when NAS had the advantage. Working with Will I Am on Hip Hop Is Dead. Hiring Anthony Selah as his manager. Soooo many great industry decisions he’s made over the course of thirty years.

damn. breh unloaded the entire magazine on us. immaculate points my dude.

dudes got damn near everything they've been crying about on lost tapes 2 except his fukkin chipped tooth...and they still complained