Essential Naruto.... you know y'all read this! (Book Spoilers like a Muhhfukka)

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Yuuup this manga has proven time and time again, that the students continually upstage their master cause they're prepared by knowing most of their moves.

Orochimari vs the the 3rd Hokage

Sasuke vs Orochimaru

Pein vs Jiraiya

Obito/Tobi vs the 4th Hokage! :ohmy:



Edit: Just remembered Obito/Tobi lost that one. :yeshrug:

But you failed to mention that all of them except Obito been through plenty of battles...Two were considered geniuses (Oro and Sasuke), and the other two were born with great chakra or possess a high level of chakra (Nagato and Jiraiya)...Jiraiya and Oro been fighting and training with the third and Sages and shyt...even Naruto and Sasuke to a degree...

Kishi put some crazy shyt in this Manga but letting a 13 year boy who was not that talented, gotten his eye crushed and the other taken out, becoming a grown man over night or even a year, controlling kyubi, teleporting, possessing knowledge about the Uchiha and Senju history all the way back to the Rikodu Sage :shaq2:

I understand why people would think Obito is Tobi because of his goofy nature, being an uchiha, and the possibly connections to Kakashi's sharigan.
 

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But you failed to mention that all of them except Obito been through plenty of battles...Two were considered geniuses (Oro and Sasuke), and the other two were born with great chakra or possess a high level of chakra (Nagato and Jiraiya)...Jiraiya and Oro been fighting and training with the third and Sages and shyt...even Naruto and Sasuke to a degree...

Kishi put some crazy shyt in this Manga but letting a 13 year boy who was not that talented, gotten his eye crushed and the other taken out, becoming a grown man over night or even a year, controlling kyubi, teleporting, possessing knowledge about the Uchiha and Senju history all the way back to the Rikodu Sage :shaq2:

I understand why people would think Obito is Tobi because of his goofy nature, being an uchiha, and the possibly connections to Kakashi's sharigan.
Obito/Tobi has been through plenty of battles.

That nicca is AKATSUKI
 

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Obito/Tobi has been through plenty of battles.

That nicca is AKATSUKI

:what: he had just joined akatsuki later on when naruto and them were already fighting with them, and even then he aint really put in no work for them nikkas he was just goofin off
 

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:what: he had just joined akatsuki later on when naruto and them were already fighting with them, and even then he aint really put in no work for them nikkas he was just goofin off

The real Madara trained him. :youngsabo:
 

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:what: he had just joined akatsuki later on when naruto and them were already fighting with them, and even then he aint really put in no work for them nikkas he was just goofin off
actually, it was revealed that he was always the leader of Akatsuki...even above Pein
 

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actually, it was revealed that he was always the leader of Akatsuki...even above Pein

yea but i dont recall seeing him going out to do any type of legwork before he "rejoined", almost like he just told pein and them what to do and just sat back until it was almost done

but what does any of that have to do with him being strong enough to fight the 4th after such a short period of time (assuming it is Obito like the other nikka was saying)
 

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Dudes still think its outrageous that he could gain that many abilities or power in a whole year?:dwillhuh:

You have a previously fukk up naruto learning advanced forbidden techniques in a day. Mastering attacks and forms that his father and master could not.

You have sasuke and tobi getting eye transplants and gaining huge amounts of power and techniques almost instantly. You have kakashi getting instant power ups on the battlefield.

Heck tobi might not be obito. But to suggests that it couldn't be him based on him not being able to obtain that much power in a year is ridiculous. Especially when all of these characters are getting major power ups in minutes, days and weeks.
 

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Dudes still think its outrageous that he could gain that many abilities or power in a whole year?:dwillhuh:

You have a previously fukk up naruto learning advanced forbidden techniques in a day. Mastering attacks and forms that his father and master could not.

You have sasuke and tobi getting eye transplants and gaining huge amounts of power and techniques almost instantly. You have kakashi getting instant power ups on the battlefield.

Heck tobi might not be obito. But to suggests that it couldn't be him based on him not being able to obtain that much power in a year is ridiculous. Especially when all of these characters are getting major power ups in minutes, days and weeks.

There's a difference between gaining tons of power and fighting the ninja who caused other villages to send out an order to run on sight. He ain't fighting toe to toe with the baddest cat outside of Madara and the 1st. Even though the 4th styled on him it's just not possible for him to give the 4th any issues at all. Naruto and Sas have had the most explosive power growths outta anyone and I bet the 4th would style on them no problem.

Even Sas with all of his skill got his chest blown out by Bee without dude really trying so their growth ain't exactly overwhelming for the higher level players. Danzo lost to Sas because he's all bark and no bite as we learned in the flashback.
 

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why was shisui's eye so important again? :ld: seems like ages since i heard about what it's power actually was

Kotoamatsukami. Essentially, it's perfect untraceable hypnosis. The user can implant a suggestion in a person's mind that will then be perceived as the target's free will. And it can't be broken. Thing is, it can't be used for a decade unless you have Hashirama's cells in you.

It was the jutsu Danzou used to have Mifune (The Samurai leader) nearly proclaim him leader of the Joint Shinobi Forces and what was used to break Itachi from Edo Tensei's control.

we can't forget kisame recognized him as the mizukage

And yet more evidence as to why Obito being Tobi is preposterous.
 

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There's a difference between gaining tons of power and fighting the ninja who caused other villages to send out an order to run on sight. He ain't fighting toe to toe with the baddest cat outside of Madara and the 1st. Even though the 4th styled on him it's just not possible for him to give the 4th any issues at all. Naruto and Sas have had the most explosive power growths outta anyone and I bet the 4th would style on them no problem.

Even Sas with all of his skill got his chest blown out by Bee without dude really trying so their growth ain't exactly overwhelming for the higher level players. Danzo lost to Sas because he's all bark and no bite as we learned in the flashback.

Don't agree with any of this especially not with the 4th taking care of sasuke and naruto with no problem. Again you have a history of weaker characters taking on the mangas beasts and giving them a problem. Kabuto - itachi, shikimaru (sp)- ataksuki member, print - hinata......she got her Ass beat but she still went against a guy that was considered a god
 

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Kotoamatsukami. Essentially, it's perfect untraceable hypnosis. The user can implant a suggestion in a person's mind that will then be perceived as the target's free will. And it can't be broken. Thing is, it can't be used for a decade unless you have Hashirama's cells in you.

It was the jutsu Danzou used to have Mifune (The Samurai leader) nearly proclaim him leader of the Joint Shinobi Forces and what was used to break Itachi from Edo Tensei's control.



And yet more evidence as to why Obito being Tobi is preposterous.

Tobi was also called Madara. The name crap is irrelevant
 
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