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[The_Sheff]

I dont think its applicable to use that Jiraiya Itachi confrontation as a measure of anything. The 3rd said Itachi was still working as a spy for Konoha while he was in Akatsuki. So if he still believed in protecting the village he damn sure wouldnt try to kill Jiraiya or anyone else from it.

 

[Naijan]

I dont think its applicable to use that Jiraiya Itachi confrontation as a measure of anything. The 3rd said Itachi was still working as a spy for Konoha while he was in Akatsuki. So if he still believed in protecting the village he damn sure wouldnt try to kill Jiraiya or anyone else from it.

Exactly, that's why he didn't just kill Kakashi

 

[Dwolf]

It's hard to tell who had the room shaking. At first I thought it was the 2nd, now I think it was the 1st.



The EMS gives the user more power, so you're wrong. We've yet to see the extent of sasuke's new power.

Let's say Susuke is on par with Naruto right now.. you think the 2nd could off Naruto with one finger? GTFOH

I like how you dudes think Sas is a pushover.

The EMS just makes the affects of the MS last forever. Not give them more power.

 

[teacher]

If madara could body the 2nd why can't sasuke?

 

[No1]

The War had me battle fatigued and sick of Naruto (I skimmed so much), but I'm fully immersed in the story again. Can't wait to see how this all plays out.



Itachi HIMSELF backed down from a confrontation with Jiraiya even with backup.

This is a non-debate, it's objectively fact that Jiraiya > Itachi (from his own admission).

Itachi was Konoha's insider source, as confirmed. Why in the world would he go and kill Jiraiya....I swear you guys jock the pervy sage so much you stop using reason.

Itachi is objectively stronger than all of the sannin.

 

[Fury616]

Itachi was Konoha's insider source, as confirmed. Why in the world would he go and kill Jiraiya....I swear you guys jock the pervy sage so much you stop using reason.
Itachi is objectively stronger than all of the sannin.

if anything dudes like us that favor Jiraiya are in the minority. Itachi has legions of fans and almost always top 3 fav character in the entire manga. The dikkriding across the internet is disgustin'. As dude said, the weasel said himself that a fight against Jiraiya would be a stalemate at best. Weasel stans still mad they can't refute this. He had time to beat up on little Sauce but when the Ero Toad Gawd appeared them cats turned into Usain Bolt. Even Guy of all people stood up to Itachi

Jiraiya: nah you ain't going nowhere...cuz I'm gonna body both of you right here

Itachi: let's go Kisame!! We're not welcome here!

 

[Fury616]

Now as for the J-Man/Itachi thing.

Susano'o + Sword of Totsuka + Yata Mirror>>>>>that tadpole nursery rhyme genjutsu(a technique that doesn't work on itachi).
I mean i know y'all been mad since Kishi bodied J-Man but y'all had ample time to grieve, just accept the fact that itachi is the better ninja so we can all move on to more meaningful discussions.

I'm curious...how do you figure Jiraiya's genjutsu wouldn't work on the weasel when it worked on Pain? Toad genjutsu used sound. You can stop seeing but you can't stop hearing. So basically Toad genjutsu>>>>>Tsukuyomi...thats fact.

Ya'll really think the weasel would body Jiraiya da gawd
Just like ya'll thought weasel and Sauce bodied Oro

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

If madara could body the 2nd why can't sasuke?

he just isnt up to par yet








yet



edit: perfect example is him almost being turned to emo fairy dust by the earth style kages atomic mantle only surviving because tobi came to his rescue then sucked him into his eye

meanwhile madara bodied all the kages including earth style like it wasnt shyt

 

[aXiom]

J-Man stans

 

[AllHolosEve]

n!ggas wont accept the truth, j-man has noth!n even close to touch!n !tach!, then throw !n k!same, !t was to protect the leaf... j-man had to h!de from pa!n & vibrate the s!gnals through the p!pes & took setup t!me.. let h!m try that sh!t w!t non spy !tach! !n a less concealed area, hes dead...

so 2 kages sa!d fukk edo so far.... 2nd only caught cause h!s brother cells & 1st shrugged !t off w!t no effort.. wa!t!n for 3&4... ! wanna se th!s sh!t expla!ned...

 

[Still FloW]

If madara could body the 2nd why can't sasuke?

Where was it said that Madara could.. YES, We know he's strong but so is the 2nd and CLEARLY its not like Madara is just going to walk over him.. Tsunade and co gave him ''the work'' or light work and kinda got him in a way, Madara lucky he had Hashiramas cell with him..

So you think the 2nd wont be a match for normal non Hashirama called up Madara ??

nikkas accin like the 1st was the ONLY who could stand up in par with Madara, the history just wasnt lined for those 2 to fight... so NO we dont know

 

[Fury616]

n!ggas wont accept the truth, j-man has noth!n even close to touch!n !tach!, then throw !n k!same, !t was to protect the leaf... j-man had to h!de from pa!n & vibrate the s!gnals through the p!pes & took setup t!me.. let h!m try that sh!t w!t non spy !tach! !n a less concealed area, hes dead... ...

J-man taught Naruto how to get out of genjutsu...you really think he stupid enough to fall for Itachi's tricks. Now we downgrading his fight against Pain when at that point NOBODY lived to fight Pain and figure out his secret. Even Pain said if Jiraiya knew his secret beforehand he wouldn't have been able to beat Jiraiya
you Itachi stans

He had to use perfect Susanoo just to fight little Sauce. LMAO Jiraiya knew every trick in the book...c'mon don't insult his intelligence breh.

 

[Grifter]

So we're saying that Jiraiya couldn't not wouldn't beat Itachi?

 

[jdashmaj]

He wasn't fighting Sas seriously he used perfect Susanoo to draw out Oro and teach him how to use the mangekyo on the fly through battle. Just like Kikashi and Kabuto, Itachi wasn't fighting to kill if he were they would have been dead. I think we are reading way to much into a statement Itachi made to keep his cover and avoid unnecessary fight with an allie. Itachi basically was on par or a better tactician than Shika and Kakashi, master in many jutsus, given praise by the goat 1st Hokage, Danzou, the 3rd, Obito, Kisame, etc, the ultimate cheat code with that sword and perfect Susanoo, mangekyo, etc........... he's a top 5 shinobi. Naruto, Nagato, and the 4th all surpassed J-Man he's the goat teacher.

 

[Boolean]

Naruto ain't surpass shyt