Nancy Pelosi: “Dems wanted an open primary but Biden endorsed Kamala Harris immediately. “

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Meh. Did we see record turnout from black women?

If not, let them be mad. It's not like Kamala was running a pro black platform anyway.

Them choosing Kamala is whatever but they weren't forced and i agree the finger pointing is lame.

I told someone that exact same thing. Black women aren’t leaving the party and the dnc knows it. They fear black men will leave, that is why they are always trying to shame black men about voting for them
 

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Nobody need to bring up age ever again.

Stacey is cool but she wouldn’t have made any difference

Stacey would have been seen as too black and too out spoken. She would have challenged Joe and they would of clashed.

Kamala was perfect for Joe. Not a threat to him political in any manner and was willing to play the role of good soldier.
 

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Everybody has an opinion now. Biden did right endorsing Kamala. He just should've done it earlier. The Dems had nobody to run. All of these convos are shifting blame from where it truly lies and that's Americans choosing to vote for a Nazi.

The media was openly asking Newsom and Gretchen to primary Biden well before the debate against trump. The dems had other people to run.
 

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I told someone that exact same thing. Black women aren’t leaving the party and the dnc knows it. They fear black men will leave, that is why they are always trying to shame black men about voting for them

Exactly 90% of black women voted Biden. 92% voted Harris.
And that 2% bump is nothing, especially since overall turnout was down.

Not to mention, "one term" Biden appointed her VP for optics and did nothing to help her prepare for the presidency, except selfishly stay in too long and then let her inherit his poor approval ratings.

These dudes gotta stop making their own decisions (2016,2020,2024) and give people what they want.
 
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Exactly 90% of black women voted Biden. 92% voted Harris.
And that 2% bump is nothing, especially since overall turnout was down.

Not to mention, "one term" Biden appointed her VP for optics and did nothing to help her prepare for the presidency, except selfishly stay in too long and then let her inherit his poor approval ratings.

These dudes gotta stop making their own decisions (2016,2020,2024) and give people what they want.

Exactly both her and Ketanji Jackson Brown were both from optics. Brown recused her from the affirmative action case under the guise that because she was a student at Harvard while roberts and Kagan did not while both attended Harvard and kagan was the Dean of Harvard law. Black but loyal to the machine.
 

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The media was openly asking Newsom and Gretchen to primary Biden well before the debate against trump. The dems had other people to run.

Gretchen (who I like) would've got done in just like Kamala.

Newsom would've got killed for being a California liberal/from a failed state (not what I think but, what Trump & MAGA would say).

Plus I get the vibe that neither of them wanted to risk their political careers going against Trump. They came across like they wanted to wait until 28 or 32 when Trump is far gone.
 

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Her and Schumer and a lot of the other 70+ year old folk. I mean you gotta let the youth take over the party at some point.They had a good run but they need to retire.
Who are these youth? I keep hearing folks saying they need to go but ain’t a muthafukka stepping up to replace them
 

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I'm the last person on here to defend Democrats. But they really had no choice. There we're tons of articles and reports about Biden's team hiding his condition from everyone. I remember watching interviews where members of Congress talked about him being MIA for months.

The rest of the party probably knew something was off. But I doubt they were told the full extent of his decline.

Angry and stunned Democrats blame Biden’s closest advisers for shielding public from full extent of president’s decline​


Inside the White House Cover-Up of Biden’s Health Crisis​

True that. I mostly meant holding him to being a one-term, "transitional" president like he said. If that was just cap to put voters' minds at ease, then I get it. But if that was at all the plan it didn't seem like were even thinking about getting a new horse ready for the race until they had to.
 

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My thing is if they had the nuts to put a knife in Biden's back right before the election, they had every opportunity to make him do business 2 years ago if he was uncooperative and chose to sit on their hands.
biden could have been the greatest president in history for his first term, and he still wouldn't have been fit to be president until 86 years old :mindblown:
 

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Exactly both her and Ketanji Jackson Brown were both from optics. Brown recused her from the affirmative action case under the guise that because she was a student at Harvard while roberts and Kagan did not while both attended Harvard and kagan was the Dean of Harvard law. Black but loyal to the machine.

I think Jackson Brown is much better because she has real lasting power/influence. Even though SCOTUS is fukked up right now.

They really did Kamala wrong, what will her legacy be from all of this?
 

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The man bowed out of the race for having his brain leak on national television and then they act as if his endorsement is what we just HAVE to do. I would’ve been like, “We respect President Biden’s wishes, but as his decision to drop out of the race signifies, he has not been in his right mind lately. Thusly we are going to fast track a primary.”

Like come the fukk on. Dems are on some fukk shyt. Picked Kamala like that would excite the base. A woman that nobody wanted to vote for, that’ll do it. They deserve this. They need to stop meddling in the people’s fukking decisions
 

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No one else would’ve been able to organize and raise the money necessary to compete in the race besides Kamala. The infrastructure and war chest was there already.

All of this is just further confirming the racism misogyny that put Trump in the White House. “Why wouldn’t yall let us run a white man with no experience and no national profile against Trump? :skip:
Newsom is the executive of the biggest state in the country, and 5th biggest GDP in the world :dahell: he was MORE experienced than kamala

and the national profile and money excuses are bullshyt in the smartphone era. everyone knows who he is in a week
 
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