Nah hold the f*ck up...Let's talk about The Rock not being on Monday Night Raw

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So I ask, what is the ONE thing that is DIFFERENT here... What is the most VISIBLE thing that stands out here... What is the CLEAREST difference that makes Rock stand apart from Hogan, Flair, Austin, Bret, HBK, HHH, Cena, Batista, Orton, Undertaker, Goldberg, etc......

He's Samoan :ohhh:
 

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so when the rock is on he gets slandered

when he's not on the interweb geeks are crying thats he's a hollywood sellout

let the man breathe :russ:
 

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That's what people were saying in 05 about Cena.
It's still mostly the internet there too. And either way those types of fans are the most fickle. Jericho's getting huge pops each night out while just before he came back people were calling his last run a failure. CM Punk just last year was getting called lame for being a good fighting babyface now all the sudden he's the GOAT and untouchable :laugh:

The difference between the Rock and those 3 is he is an actual difference maker. Cena gets booed because they don't want their top guy being anything but an anti-hero badass. The Rock can get booed out the buildiing (which will never happen again) but because he's better than Cena, is a legend, and actually sells out arenas and ppvs. It makes you look like foolish to go against that type of success when no one else is bringing that. I mean if he's wack what's good?
 

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It's still mostly the internet there too. And either way those types of fans are the most fickle. Jericho's getting huge pops each night out while just before he came back people were calling his last run a failure. CM Punk just last year was getting called lame for being a good fighting babyface now all the sudden he's the GOAT and untouchable :laugh:

The difference between the Rock and those 3 is he is an actual difference maker. Cena gets booed because they don't want their top guy being anything but an anti-hero badass. The Rock can get booed out the buildiing (which will never happen again) but because he's better than Cena, is a legend, and actually sells out arenas and ppvs. It makes you look like foolish to go against that type of success when no one else is bringing that. I mean if he's wack what's good?

When did half the crowd booing Cena become mostly the IWC ? And no one here that has said the Rock has been wack isn't a difference maker. But right now he's a huge difference maker because he was one of the biggest stars of all time that wasn't around for almost 10 years. You Rock fans severely underestimate the nostalgia effect involving the Rock. And you couple that with how crappy the product has been overall the past few years, it's a recipe for temporary success.
 

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WWE is gonna take whatever they can get from The Rock. He's unlikely to be available every week and they knew that going in. The fact that he's making himself available for quite a few shows between now and Mania is pretty impressive. It's not like he needs WWE.

I've always been a fan, but I recognize he isn't what he used to be in the ring, and he's probably not even quite as sharp on the mic. But that's fine. The fact that he's still as good as he is after essentially being gone for a decade is pretty impressive.

He more than makes up for anything he's lost over the years by being a genuine mainstream superstar celebrity, and with his nostalgia value as a face of the company when wrestling was at its peak. Those two things are much more valuable than being the best wrestler in the world today, or being the best talker.

Punk is the better wrestler AND talker at this point, in my opinion. But Rock has more value to the company, just because he is who he is. He has no obligation to show up for every episode of Raw, even if he's the champ. I'm sure WWE is thrilled that he came back at all. He's worth the investment.

I think these dudes, Rock and Punk, are working well together. I can't believe there aren't more of us who actually like both of them, instead of feeling a need to pick one or the other. It's like people forget they're working TOGETHER to create good television. :rudy:
 

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I think these dudes, Rock and Punk, are working well together. I can't believe there aren't more of us who actually like both of them, instead of feeling a need to pick one or the other. It's like people forget they're working TOGETHER to create good television. :rudy:

Hold the fukk up. So you are telling me it's a fukking work?! :damn:
 

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When did half the crowd booing Cena become mostly the IWC ? And no one here that has said the Rock has been wack isn't a difference maker. But right now he's a huge difference maker because he was one of the biggest stars of all time that wasn't around for almost 10 years. You Rock fans severely underestimate the nostalgia effect involving the Rock. And you couple that with how crappy the product has been overall the past few years, it's a recipe for temporary success.
He's only here temporarily. Trust if dude decided to quit his day job and get back fully immersed into the business Raw would be where it should be and that's getting 4.0s weekly atleast.

You know why? Because the brass actually care when he's around. They can run shoot promo reality eras, stable takeovers, authority struggles and all that but they only have short term plans and no goals for them. When Rock's around the products better. Everyone steps there game up and booking actually has a plan. Because the money being made is that extra incentive to make things good. I don't know why no one can see that. But I guess you all can run with this Punk is the best right now even though when Rock leaves again he might get turned on and by turned I mean cheered like a babyface with the rest of the "small portion" arena section Cena haters :snoop:
 

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WWE is gonna take whatever they can get from The Rock. He's unlikely to be available every week and they knew that going in. The fact that he's making himself available for quite a few shows between now and Mania is pretty impressive. It's not like he needs WWE.

I've always been a fan, but I recognize he isn't what he used to be in the ring, and he's probably not even quite as sharp on the mic. But that's fine. The fact that he's still as good as he is after essentially being gone for a decade is pretty impressive.

He more than makes up for anything he's lost over the years by being a genuine mainstream superstar celebrity, and with his nostalgia value as a face of the company when wrestling was at its peak. Those two things are much more valuable than being the best wrestler in the world today, or being the best talker.

Punk is the better wrestler AND talker at this point, in my opinion. But Rock has more value to the company, just because he is who he is. He has no obligation to show up for every episode of Raw, even if he's the champ. I'm sure WWE is thrilled that he came back at all. He's worth the investment.

I think these dudes, Rock and Punk, are working well together. I can't believe there aren't more of us who actually like both of them, instead of feeling a need to pick one or the other. It's like people forget they're working TOGETHER to create good television. :rudy:

Punk stopped ranting and raving about the Rock in all in his interviews before the WM 28 hype started..he was trying to create tension at first with all those outlandish comments. Next thing we know? He's at Mania 28 backstage laughing like q flunkie with the Rock in that picture everyone seen. A picture that wss more over than his match with Jericho at Mania.
 
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