My takeaways after finishing Raekwon's new book, From Staircase to Stage.

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He said Power was spending Rae's personal money, that was meant for Icewater, on outside shyt and hiding it from Rae. Rae confronted him and Power acted nonchalantly like it was no big deal. Rae said after that Power would disappear and do other shyt and wasn't focused on their management company. Rae said he still has love for him but doesn't love him with a capital L anymore, and they parted ways.

So he's not being consistent. What you just described he said Power did is blatant theft. Yet he says elsewhere Power NOR RZA never stole from him. The inconsistencies is why I feel Rae full of shyt.
 

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So he's not being consistent. What you just described he said Power did is blatant theft. Yet he says elsewhere Power NOR RZA never stole from him. The inconsistencies is why I feel Rae full of shyt.
Yeah, he definitely says Power stole from him. He doesn't outright say RZA stole from him, but he alludes to it, and he HATES Divine with a passion and pretty much says he robs and deceives the clan.
 

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What also irks me is that Rae stays harping on RZA beats when RZA already done gave them free reign to do the next Wu projects. They just too lazy to do it. Math already knocked one out, what's stopping Rae or Ghost from putting one together?
 

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I swear I'll be disappointed if RZA ever does anything with these ungrateful nikkas again. I wouldn’t even get on stage with these nikkas again if I was him.

Slow down nikka, I've never seen them all together.
 

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Slow down nikka, I've never seen them all together.

Lol. I feel you. I guess part of the reason I feel that way is because Ive seen them live together so many times.
 
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So he's not being consistent. What you just described he said Power did is blatant theft. Yet he says elsewhere Power NOR RZA never stole from him. The inconsistencies is why I feel Rae full of shyt.
Seems like he would tell the truth in the project that people have to spend money on.

YT videos are just for marketing purposes
 

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Seems like he would tell the truth in the project that people have to spend money on.

YT videos are just for marketing purposes

He said RZA never robbed him years ago way before the book, on the Breakfast Club. And some of the things he's saying isn't making sense, especially the RZA not listening to their ideas on the album thing. RZA been gave them the power to put together a Wu album.
 

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Rae probably has grounds to be angry about some shyt but him hating on Rza musically since 97 has always been some bullshyt. Rza was still putting out dope shyt well into the 2000s.

The problem with Rza is that as a producer you can tell he really gets into the creation aspect of beat making and he enjoys creating more than just looking for a dope sound. He still has the ability to make dope shyt and he has over the years, but you can tell he likes creating and is probably addicted to the process of making new shyt. I guarantee though if one of the members just sat down and went through Rza’s tapes they could easily find 10-12 dope joints, even if it means digging through tons of unfinished abstract guitar center shyt. But just straight up saying “nah Rza fell off, we want other producers” ain’t exactly the way to approach it, especially since they have all had the ability to work with other producers for damn near 25 years.
 

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Rae probably has grounds to be angry about some shyt but him hating on Rza musically since 97 has always been some bullshyt. Rza was still putting out dope shyt well into the 2000s.

The problem with Rza is that as a producer you can tell he really gets into the creation aspect of beat making and he enjoys creating more than just looking for a dope sound. He still has the ability to make dope shyt and he has over the years, but you can tell he likes creating and is probably addicted to the process of making new shyt. I guarantee though if one of the members just sat down and went through Rza’s tapes they could easily find 10-12 dope joints, even if it means digging through tons of unfinished abstract guitar center shyt. But just straight up saying “nah Rza fell off, we want other producers” ain’t exactly the way to approach it, especially since they have all had the ability to work with other producers for damn near 25 years.
Rae says RZA won't go back to gritty soulful beats and he only wants to make new shyt without samples. Rae said the Wu always asks to hear his old beats but he always pushes new beats on them. He also said RZA doesn't listen to any modern music, so he never knows what the current sound is. And he said Shaolin vs Wu-Tang was basically his idea of how a Wu-Tang album should sound without RZA.
 

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Imagine thinking RZA fell off after 96 and choosing to rhyme over beats like these instead







Come the fukk on man :why:

Agreed. The impression I got is Rae tried to give local dudes a shot. He would hire local producers and engineers. He kept wanting to make a new Wu-Tang without making the same mistakes he felt RZA did. But he failed with American Cream Team and Icewater. Those failures humbled him a little and gave him a little more respect for what RZA goes through with the Wu. But, still Rae wouldn't admit that he's not a good judge of talent and blamed everything on the groups. He said he thinks Immobilarity is an 89 out 100 :russ:
 

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Yeah, he definitely says Power stole from him. He doesn't outright say RZA stole from him, but he alludes to it, and he HATES Divine with a passion and pretty much says he robs and deceives the clan.

:mjlol: Easy with the mustard…you are taking liberties with what was said.
 
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