Imagine thinking RZA fell off after 96 and choosing to rhyme over beats like these instead
Come the fukk on man
good lord this sounds like some Dollar Tree Neptunes shyt
My takeaways after finishing Raekwon's new book, From Staircase to Stage.
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good lord this sounds like some Dollar Tree Neptunes shyt
Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
No they abandoned him and wanted to go solo as soon as possible.
Don't try to rewrite history here, don't Christopher Columbus this shyt. Word is bond.
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Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
Imagine thinking RZA fell off after 96 and choosing to rhyme over beats like these instead
Come the fukk on man
First off the second one is alright imo. Not the best beat but on some early 2000's commercial shyt it was okay.
Secondly, he didn't have the best ear for beats himself but cmon breh RZA's beats was iffy after a time. Even listen to Better Tomorrow. RZA did lose a step production wise and it's just a fact.
A real producer would have cultivated their projects kinda like a Westside Gunn and let others make the beats and just picked them or take a step further like Dre and tweak them but RZA doing whole projects after awhile would have been a bad idea.
Rae has dropped multiple duds without RZA, some back to back. nikkas ain't going for the bullshyt is allSome of y'all riding rza dikk a little too hard.
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Superstar
Rza fell off eventually, but Rae been saying he fell off in 97. That’s just not true.
Mikeatris
Supreme Mathematik
Because sampling is way more expensive than it was 20 years ago. Someone said it is much different when you have to pay $1000 for a beat than $10000. Reason why people like him, Kanye and Premo don't sample, shyt is too expensive.
Rae said him and Ghost don't mind giving up the rights to their royalties if the music benefits for it. It seemed like Rae was more concerned with making classic music they could draw a big crowd and tour with rather than trying to make money off album sales.
Mikeatris
Supreme Mathematik
He only mentioned Ghost. Ghost has said himself he doesn't make money off album sales cuz he wants the best possible beats, so he's willing to give up 100% royalties. I'm sure they could pay very little for the sample rights if they give up all their royalties. But, as you said, who knows what the other members would think of that.
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Superstar
I can tell you right now Baby Uey ain’t going for that.
Mikeatris
Supreme Mathematik
Neither would I.
Rae full of shyt. Him and Ghost have been using mostly unknown, cheap producers on their projects for years because of sampling reasons. Look at the production credits for their last few projects.
That's BS. His whole gripe for A Better Tomorrow was about being paid some extravagant number. He didn't care about the music. He kept saying "the business had to be right." RZA was pleading with him to come to the studio to work, and he gave RZA a list of demands. RZA was telling him no music budget could handle that amount in current times. In the end, RZA paid him his number out of pocket, with half the Clan voting against it. That's when he decided to do 2 tiers of Wu-payments. Ghost, Rae, Meth get one number, the rest get another. I assume RZA gets the higher amount. There's tons of interviews about it.
And Ghost's entire lawsuit, spearheaded by the (alleged) snitch, was about getting RZA's cut of royalties. That dude ain't giving up ish.