My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread
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Woj and Isola tweeting that Melo's intent on staying in NY and won't let Phil run him out of town...Loyalty is some ish I'll always appreciate, but damn...I hope this doesn't mean Phil keeps trying to win this damned season. Hand the keys to KP and the kids, if Melo wants to stick around so be it.
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Low key, NY sports writers are no different than some soulja boy challenge shyt...
I'm hearing that Big Soulja was at the meeting. He was interviewed by Matt Berman
So... I was just in Phil's office cuz I just bought MSG. Like...I own MSG now, right, where all the Knicks play and shyt. So, nikkas was just rollin' up the blunt that Phil got from his Buddhist nikkas.
Anyway, I'm in on the leopard print couch that levitates next to the floor to ceiling windows overlooking NY when Phil talmbout 'yo, Soulja, I think your fans outside.' I'm like, my fans? In MSG? I told him, 'nikka, I don't have any fans." So Phil grabbed the Draco, handed it to me and shyt. I loaded the bytch... I was ready.
This doofy ass tall nikka kicks through the fukking door on some Terminator shyt talmbout 'nikka, are we good or are you trying to catch the fade before I ask for a trade, let's call a spade a spade.'
So, I'm not letting this nikka disrespect Phil the Real... huh? No not THAT Phil the Real that you interviewed last week. A different one.
So I lift the Draco and start bussin'. BAW...BAW....BAW...BAW.
This nikka clearly doesn't play defense so he got hit with every round.
nikka was on the floor, yellin' and shyt talmbout, 'Ref..REF...CALL THAT shyt, I'm fukkING SHOT, AAHHH, CALL IT.'
So go up to this nikka, bleeding all over the jersey carpet. Yea, the carpet was made out of those ugly ass orange jersey nikkas didn't want to wear anymore.
I take off the mask. I was like 'DAMN'. I know this nikka. It's Melo, headband all crooked and shyt, so you could tell he was hit. I blasted him again. BAW BAW BAW.
Huh? Did he actually agree to be traded? .... Nah, I ain't goin' talk about all that...
shyt was crazy, though.
Ben Lurkin
Pro
That's how it gotta beY'all some fools
Kids gonna come to y'all like
Kid- Dad I've got something to tell you
Parent- What's up?
Kid- It's serious, please don't hate me.
Parent- I could never hate you
Kid- No, really don't be mad. Cause I love you for everything you and mom have ever done for me and I just don't wanna disappoint y'all.
Parent- Your mom and me could never hate or be disappointed in you just tell me what's up.
Kid- Well...I'm not a Knicks fan...I'm a Hawks fan
Parent- What?
Kid- It just sort of happened, it doesn't mean we can't still watch the games together. That was always a favorite moment of mine, spending time together watching the games as a family
Parent- How you gonna do this to your momma and me after all we done did for you
Kid- Are you mad? Please don't be.
Parent- Am I mad? The hell you thinkyour mother and I raised you as a knick, we've sat through all the good and bad, mostly bad
but we rode through it as a family and this is how you gonna treat us
You're dead to me *insert son/daughter name here*,
*insert spouse name here, get in here and listen to what this stray is saying
Kid- Daddy no, I'm sorry
Adult- I have no son/daughter
Loyalty has zero to do with this. Melo feels his brand is best suited in NYC
The thing you mentioned about trying to win now is scary
Imagine the Knicks trade the 2017 pick for a veteran
I'm so fascinated by this reasoning.
On one hand, the consensus is that no one needs/wants to come to NY because of the blessing nature of social media on being able to make an athlete playing in Milwaukee or OKC be on billboards and internet ads all across the world... "So why would they need NY for their brand?"
^ That's in response to when Free Agency rolls around.
On the other hand...nah, fukk that,
on the next finger, brehs will SWEAR they know Melo is hellbent on making sure his brand is secure so he NEEDS NY. 
Let's have an honest and logical discussion. Is Melo the only person stuck in the old and out dated marketing method? Actually, it would require Melo AND his entire PR team to be out of the loop that every internet annon seems to have mastered about marketing 101: No Big City Market Needed.
Are we sure our reason about why Melo wants to stay in NY is based in logic?
No trolling, I'm dead ass trying to understand.
I'm so fascinated by this reasoning.
On one hand, the consensus is that no one needs/wants to come to NY because of the blessing nature of social media on being able to make an athlete playing in Milwaukee or OKC be on billboards and internet ads all across the world... "So why would they need NY for their brand?"
^ That's in response to when Free Agency rolls around.
On the other hand...nah, fukk that,
Let's have an honest and logical discussion. Is Melo the only person stuck in the old and out dated marketing method? Actually, it would require Melo AND his entire PR team to be out of the loop that every internet annon seems to have mastered about marketing 101: No Big City Market Needed.
Are we sure our reason about why Melo wants to stay in NY is based in logic?
No trolling, I'm dead ass trying to understand.
If you had a guaranteed 30 million dollar contract with a no out clause from the team would you want to leave? Melo has it easy in NY. Chasing a ring isn't a priority for him. There's nothing wrong with that I guess, but the fans have a right to not like it.
ogc163
Superstar
I definitely feel you. It does not touch on my inquiry in the least bit. The question was about his brand.
But on that topic... I'm sure with CBA rumblings, Melo KNEW that if he signed a 2 year deal instead of a long term deal, he'd make WAY more bank with more options and an opportunity to sign where ever he wanted. That kills the "all about the money argument."
With respect to having it easy in NY, though, is that a rational assumption? Who - from coli posters to athletes - does not know that playing in NY, unless you're name is Derek Jeter - is a fukking personality/celebrity grind machine. Any misstep and you're crucified and lambasted. He had to know that. He had to know that his brand would receive far less negative attention in a more low key city. Or, again, is Melo the ONLY person out of this oh so apparent loop of rationality?
Going to NY seemed to be one of the most challenging decisions for an athlete. shyt, Porzingis didn't even volunteer... the nikka was chosen, and even HE was booed before he was ever in a jersey.
Now, moving past Melo, since he's the outlier, do we believe any athlete post Melo believes anything is easy in NY?
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Nah, it was a flier. You take those sometimes. Stinks to let RoLo go, because he was on a good deal -- but you cleared the decks.
The bigger mistakes, given the current trajectory were:
- Resigning melo, because there clearly was not a good plan to compete with him.
- (including an NTC in his eal)
- The Noah contract
A one-year Rose deal is basically a tryout, and it would give the knicks the opportunity to say to other guards, look how they played with Rose, who is pretty middling at this point, imagine what YOU could do.
None of that matters right now though, because we're in gossip central. I've been overseas for the last two weeks on a much needed vacation, and thank god because it seems like while I was out, I missed the knicks (and the country?) kind of falling to pieces. It is going to be mainly speculation unless melo or phil says something revealing, publicly. Which means batten down the hatches, this we're in for a bunch of trash from reporters, and probably from posters on this site.
I do not necessarily think the Knicks can get good value from Melo anymore, that time has probably passed. So they have to figure out how to make it work, as they position this team for the next five years.
Phil sold out the rebuilding process, he tried it for about a year and and a half, and didn't like how it fit. So here we are, again, with some long/expensive contracts that probably can't be moved, an executive we don't necessarily trust to move the team forward, and owner who is amongst the worst in professional sports, and no real plan.
I definitely feel you. It does not touch on my inquiry in the least bit. The question was about his brand.
But on that topic... I'm sure with CBA rumblings, Melo KNEW that if he signed a 2 year deal instead of a long term deal, he'd make WAY more bank with more options and an opportunity to sign where ever he wanted. That kills the "all about the money argument."
With respect to having it easy in NY, though, is that a rational assumption? Who - from coli posters to athletes - does not know that playing in NY, unless you're name is Derek Jeter - is a fukking personality/celebrity grind machine. Anything misstep and you're crucified and lambasted. He had to know that. He had to know that his brand would receive far less negative attention in a more low key city. Or, again, is Melo the ONLY person out of this oh so apparent loop of rationality?
Going to NY seemed to be one of the most challenging decisions for an athlete. shyt, Porzingis didn't even volunteer... the nikka was chosen, and even HE was booed before he was ever in a jersey.
Now, moving past Melo, since he's the outlier, do we believe any athlete post Melo believes anything is easy in NY?
Has it easy in a sense he knows he has the organization by the balls with his contract. He can put up with the booing knowing he's still got a guaranteed 60 mill coming his way and a mansion to go home to- regardless of how much he inflates his PPG for all star appearances, regardless of the type of shape he keeps himself in, regardless of how poor the Knicks record is, regardless of how many coaches he pushes out. He literally has full control over this franchise till his contract runs out.
The Knicks aren't the Jets or Mets where people just stop showing up if the teams terrible. Melo knows this. He's not going to change anything when there's no reason to try and hold him accountable. Accountability went out the window with the max deal and a no trade.
Do you believe NY has helped his brand overwhelming more than being anywhere else in this technological era?
Why NY, then?
Why didn't he edit to sign an exorbitant contact with the incoming Brooklyn Nets were there have rewarded him handsomely for being the new Star to a rebranded and edgy team?
Nets suck and no one says Detonation didn't make his team better and all that other critical rhetoric.
It still perplexes me that people are so sure about his motives.
What brand? That's something that's in his head. I don't even know what that means other than an excuse to stay in NY. He's got plenty of money to invest where you can do anywhere.The reason he's in NY is bc of his contract which prevents anyone from holding him accountable.
Why did he originally request to go to NY, Trip?
