My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[Trip]

 

[DetroitEWarren]

50 and Vivica in the building at the same time . 50 been looking fat as hell lately low key, looking like he did before he got shot. nikka hasn't aged a bit though, black don't crack fasho.

 

[ogc163]

That disgust man, just wow.

 

[Malta]

They need to be extra cautious with him, no need to drive this dude into the ground at 21 just to make the 8th seed and get molested by the Cavs. Dudes that tall should always have their health guarded, even if it's extreme.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

50 and Vivica in the building at the same time . 50 been looking fat as hell lately low key, looking like he did before he got shot. nikka hasn't aged a bit though, black don't crack fasho.

 

[Aintnobodystupid]

Hes said he wants to retire a knick and not go through free agency again. We gon have to lowball the shyt out of him next contract so he can get the hint to fukk off.

 

[storyteller]

I don't think tonight was about effort so much as it was about IQ and communication. You can hear Noah shouting to guys when to double, when to go under and when to fight through a screen...nobody else seems like they're talking. Rose and Lee got mangled by screens and I'm not sure if it's these guys not getting warned or if they're expecting a switch or harder hedge; but they got eaten alive (Lee stepped up in the second half to be fair). Offensively, the team didn't look bad at all in the first half but then the second half was a combination of stagnation and sloppy, misguided effort. Stagnation was Melo catching and going Iso as well as a complete lack of motion from his teammates (you can decide who to blame for that, I like to blame everyone). The misguided and sloppy ball was from that second unit which rushed and forced things even though they were clearly trying hard. Just a really awful showing outta these cats; it'll be interesting if this direction continues, what direction the trade rumors go in...should tell us a lot.

 

[Wargames]

Two things with yalls defense, that i've noticed anyway:

• One is with how they handle off-the-ball screeners: the defender whose man is setting the screen doesn't hedge or impede or switch. So the end result is the wing defender (Lee, Rose, Jennings, etc) gets clipped by the screen as their man curls into a wide open three unimpeded everytime. Doesn't matter if Orlando can't shoot 3s if it's wide open and, more importantly, they know in advance it's going to be wide open. And teams pass to where Noah's man is screening because one, he naturally drifts backwards towards the basket anyway (so he doesn't obstruct the trajectory of the offense player curling) and two, they know Noah doesn't want to switch on the screen anyway.
• Two, nobody knows whose responsibility it is to drop down for the initial help when there is penetration. Which means nobody knows whose supposed to rotate on whose man is now open once the primary help defender leaves his man. I saw this late in the 4th when Melo left his man wide open at the top of they key to drift down to help a drive.. but Jennings also left his man at the corner baseline to help on that same drive. So you had 3 knicks in the paint on 1 magic player, and the pass went to Melo's open mad for a straight on 3. It should probably be Jennings job to help there b/c a cross court pass is harder than a short pass to the top of the key but regardless it has to be one or the other, and whoever it is that commits, the next man over should be anticipating the kickout to the offensive player whose defender just commited to help.. and the next next man should be anticipating the next pass after that. But the knicks don't seem to know who should help to begin with.

I think the first problem is easy enough to troubleshoot, as the coach just needs to make a decision as to what the guy defending the screener should do in those situations. The second issue is more complex because that requires all 5 guys working in unison in how they are reacting, anticipating and recovering.. not just physical effort but mental.

They can't do any of this while Rambis is the defensive coordinator.

Like I know he is Phil's friend but your right they look lost out there and that points to Rambis needs to go

Melo would be a great trade piece for a late pick to a team looking to Win..... But Melo aint leaving.

 

[Malta]

Something has to be done about this defense, this is insane

How much of this is on Hornacek? He's never had a strong defensive squad his teams in Phoenix were the same way.

It's personnel, your PG and SF are horrible defenders which always puts pressure on the frontcourt to play excellent defense. Noah is a shell of his former self, even if he weren't you'd be asking so much of him to stop teams from the constant breakdowns.


You'd need Gobert, Gasol or Embiid to fix your defense, Kristaps being at the 4 means he's not always near the rim to clean up the garbage like those other guys are. Kristaps isn't ready to play C yet, that switch when it happens will help the defense in the future too.

 

[ogc163]

 

[DetroitEWarren]

 

[KnickstapeCity]

 

[tremonthustler1]

Tonight was hilarious.


Were the announcers going in on the team?

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

 

[puggle]

Tonight was hilarious.


Were the announcers going in on the team?

Breen was taking shots at Melo He loves doing that. Even Clyde had to acknowledge it, Melo's been atrocious the last few games.