My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[Trapperman Dave]

Why Was The J5 Title Changed?

I mean they weren't really living up to the title

 

[Miles Davis]

- KOQ is looking like Noah's influence is taking. That coast to coast play and the screaming...that's Noah's ish. The mentor stuff doesn't value at that huge contract, but at least there's some benefits to find and KOQ is at minimum worth his contract at this point. He's gotta just stay focused.

- Nothing Lance did in the bit I watched (and he hit both his made FGA's while I was watching mind you) made me confident in him retaking a rotation spot over Kuz.
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1) you really think Noah having an impact on KOQ?

2)I'd still rather Kuz, I feel he's got more in his arsenal than Lance. We've seen Lance's herky jerky moves going towards the basket and missing as well as him missing shots a lot whereas Kuz looks more comfortable doing that stuff. Lance needs a fire lit under him, if he wants the minutes he needs to earn them back.

Why Was The J5 Title Changed?

Phil made the posse comment, we all we got so we changed it.

 

[mvp_status]

I caught the whole first half before pausing the game and switching to Westworld's finale because that show is crack and I didn't want the conclusion spoiled. I flipped back after the show and the pause didn't hold or some ish so I was watching the Knicks try to hold a 5 point lead with 5 mins to go in the game. So I can't give my usual player by player stuff or get too much into the analysis, but I'll toss a few rolling observations based on the past few games...

- Rose finding that midrange jumper goes from an okay player to an impact piece. He also had a couple of kickouts in the first half, which shows less tunnel vision. If he's hitting midrange and clipping 5-7 APG instead of 3-4...the dude becomes a legit third cog right with KP and Melo.

- KOQ is looking like Noah's influence is taking. That coast to coast play and the screaming...that's Noah's ish. The mentor stuff doesn't value at that huge contract, but at least there's some benefits to find and KOQ is at minimum worth his contract at this point. He's gotta just stay focused.

- As scary as the long scoring droughts have been recently, I think the biggest problem I've noted with the big leads collapsing has been defensive complacency. It sounds like the third quarter was another free throw fest for an opposition while the Knicks hung their heads and complained at everything. The five mins I saw of the second half show intelligent, physical defense and so did most of the first half (early on they were a bit foolish with their contact though). So these guys are capable of good D, but when the lead is near 20; they lose the urgency necessary.

- Melo without the weight of scoring every second he's out there has become the closer again. His clutch play in a third tight one was pretty damned clear and it's been on both ends.

- Speaking of clutch defensive play, KP was awesome on the defensive end while I was watching. He's had his lapses and even in this one he completely forgot about Barnes on the three point line multiple times; but as far as interior defense goes, the kid is a PROBLEM!

- Nothing Lance did in the bit I watched (and he hit both his made FGA's while I was watching mind you) made me confident in him retaking a rotation spot over Kuz.

- Willy has some of the most fluid post moves I've seen from a young big in a long time. Okafor would be the only young C who entered the league with immediate post prowess like that in my recent memory (not counting Embiid who is a freak of nature and should only be compared to elite prospects plus who had a couple of years developing from off the court).

- There's a bit of a progression this season that's been fun to see. The Knicks started off getting down early and fighting back all game. Then they were keeping games tight and fighting back from smaller deficits for a while. Now they're getting off to early big leads and fighting to protect small leads next. The next step is obviously closing these games out and sweeping the damned leg.

- Back to back this week...I legitimately am sticking to the "rest guys to send a message" thing. It'll be added benefit in a 3 games over 4 nights run because players will be rested for the ones they're supposed to win. It'd be nice to see them come out and fight with the Cavs; but I don't care about a moral victory so much as getting those notches in the win column and the last 3 games over 4 saw Melo go on the worst shooting I've seen from him over a span of a few games afterward.

- Just to reiterate more clearly, the Miami game is one I REALLY want this squad to win. They should win it too, they're the better team but Whiteside is a handful and Miami has some young hungry cats when the team is healthy (have they been healthy at all this year though?)

- Hornacek has done a good job coaching, but he made a mistake leaving Noah out there to miss 4 FTA's and KOQ came in and immediately had an impact on both ends...so the late sub looks worse. He admitted the failing though, which i respect.

- Holiday's hustle is always gonna be fun to watch. He has to get that jumper back to consistency though.

- Sasha deserves his props, in the latest few stints on the floor; he's looked more like he did the last month of last season rather than the entire rest of his Knicks run. I'm still a Chasson Randle guy though.

One can argue that KOQ recent play can be attributed to Wily's emergence, and that he (kyle) was in danger of falling out of the rotation if he didnt start to distinguish himself

Nice writeup though, one of the very few things in this thread I appreciate seeing on a regular basis

 

[DPresidential]

I definitely believe Noah has an impact of O'Quinn. People forget O'Quinn is 26 years old; he's not wet behind his ears but still young enough to be mentored.

@storyteller great write up, thanks again.

@KologeroBx Breh, first rule of superstition...don't question the thread title...we've beasted since!

I can't wait until we face Miami... I really think Porzingis is going to jump all the way out of the slump w/ an efficient 20+ game.

I like Noah starting still... I don't want to risk O'Quinn getting into foul trouble early. For "superstar control", let Noah play himself out of rotation. He appears very reasonable...he's seeing the evidence of why he needs a smaller role.

Justin Holiday really seems like he's having fun. I liked Lopez but every game, I am happier and happier we made that trade.

Go NY GO NY GO.

 

[storyteller]

1) you really think Noah having an impact on KOQ?

2)I'd still rather Kuz, I feel he's got more in his arsenal than Lance. We've seen Lance's herky jerky moves going towards the basket and missing as well as him missing shots a lot whereas Kuz looks more comfortable doing that stuff. Lance needs a fire lit under him, if he wants the minutes he needs to earn them back.

1) It's one of a few variables; there's no denying that the weight loss has Kylo moving around better but I think this quote from Kyle and the little bits of Noah style we've seen combined to get me thinking about it more closely, "'Joakim didn’t go nowhere,' O’Quinn said. 'He’s still sitting next to me, talking to me every timeout, like a coach. Much appreciated.’’

2) Cosign, I get why dude was pressing last season but he's out there with too much talent to be taking possessions on himself and his vision needs improvement that LASIK couldn't cure.

One can argue that KOQ recent play can be attributed to Wily's emergence, and that he (kyle) was in danger of falling out of the rotation if he didnt start to distinguish himself

Nice writeup though, one of the very few things in this thread I appreciate seeing on a regular basis

Appreciate the props fam and I definitely agree that a big factor in KOQ's improvement is how the other young bigs are pushing him. We saw that in the preseason too, he came out lethargic a couple of times and Willy ate his minutes up. Then when he got another shot, he brought a straight up fire with him. You gotta imagine that having to defense Willy every practice is helping too; this dude KOQ's weakside rotations and shot block timing improved out of no where.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Why are we playing the Cavs on a back to back?

 

[Ironman]

Why are we playing the Cavs on a back to back?

That's fine. We'll put Miami away early and be ready for payback Wednesday

 

[Gangstar8]

Why are we playing the Cavs on a back to back?

POrzingis coming back down to earth playing like a bust

 

[grazazaza]

POrzingis coming back down to earth playing like a bust

Randle choking all three free throws to tie games

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Anything less than a 20 point piecing would be a disappointment.

 

[Ironman]

POrzingis coming back down to earth playing like a bust

I can't rep someone neg this for me

 

[grazazaza]

I can't rep someone neg this for me

Done

 

[mbewane]

Winning and grinning

Had never heard "Bouncing and announcing"

Knicks get the W and we get Walt quotables

GO NY GO NY GO

 

[Columbo]

POrzingis coming back down to earth playing like a bust

Negged

 

[Miles Davis]

Winning and grinning

Had never heard "Bouncing and announcing"

Knicks get the W and we get Walt quotables

GO NY GO NY GO

Walt see the squad putting in work so he must've figured it was time to bust out the new clydeisms