My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

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Nic Batum is 6'8, and weight 215 coming into the league.



Obviously not at Batums levels (especially on rebounds) but I expect him to operate as a SG who is also a major ball handler like the video above. I don't think Frank is a PG, but a wing with PG handle who can shoot. aka a traditional SG but you don't see a lot of those in the league anymore

Offensively making points from cutting inbetween screens to get open, shooting from catch and shoot, Passing to shooters off the Pick N Roll, shooting the 3 if the guy guarding him goes under the screen.
 

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I love him.

I worry that he suffers from a bit of Lonzo-disease in the half court, in that he has like zero wiggle or burst to beat guys off the iso. But you can learn to change speeds and still be very effective without incredible quickness.

His ability to hit jumpers should help him to keep defenders off balance even with his lack of burst (I have a theory that he'll gain a step with NBA level personal trainers but it's a deep speculation on pure anecdotal ish). Dude shot crazy well uncontested and a really nice percentage off contested jumpers and his off the dribble jumper is a strength; a D-Wade esque pump fake (no one can match Wade's but that type of pump fake) would get Frank a step without taking a dribble. I'm pretty hype for kid because as much as everyone talks offense, his defense is the really exciting prospect.
 

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If you’re a team looking to add first-round picks in this year’s NBA Draft, the team to see may be the Trail Blazers, who own three first-rounders.

According to multiple league sources, the Trail Blazers have been open to deals for some combination of the picks. Portland has contract commitments to 12 players next season already, and a projected salary of $133 million, which is $12 million over the league’s luxury-tax threshold. That puts the Blazers in line for $21 million in luxury tax payments.


If Portland keeps all three picks, another $4 million would be added to the cap, which means $10 million more in tax payments. That could be deferred by choosing overseas players who remain out of the NBA next season.


Any deal involving a Portland pick would likely involve an easing (or erasing) of the team’s tax burden. Portland doled out about $340 million in contract commitments — young holdovers Allen Crabbe, Moe Harkless, Meyers Leonard and C.J. McCollum, plus vets Festus Ezeli and Evan Turner — last summer following a solid, 44-win season. But they regressed to 41 wins this year, and apart from McCollum, none of their signees significantly improved.

Portland owns the No. 15, 20 and 26 picks in this draft, and several teams are eager to get into that mix. The Knicks have inquired about some combination of the Blazers’ picks, a source said, and those talks are ongoing. New York has the eighth pick and could trade down for a combination of picks, though the preference for the Knicks is to keep their pick and add one of Portland’s.

The Nets have inquired, too, and that could be interesting because of the Nets’ ability to absorb salary. Brooklyn stands to have about $40 million in cap space next summer, and without much to offer big-time free agents, leveraging that space to accumulate picks with bad contracts would make sense for the Nets, who will see the No. 1 pick swapped to Boston this year, and have next year’s pick sent to the Celtics, too.

For the time being, Portland wants to dump a salary in a deal for a pick. If they could dump the contract of the maddeningly frustrating Leonard, who is owed $31 million over the next two years and could get the Blazers close to slipping under the tax number, one of their picks could be had.

Not that simple, though. Crabbe might be the most inviting trade target, especially for the Nets. They offered him the four-year, $75 million deal he originally signed as a restricted free agent last July before the Blazers matched the terms. Problem is, Crabbe comes with a 15-percent trade kicker, and though the Blazers still like his potential, no team around the league likes him enough to tack on another $11.25 million via trade kicker for him.

Harkless is a more attractive option. He has $40 million coming to him over four seasons, and was better in many areas than Crabbe last year. But, as well-stocked as this draft is rumored to be, teams still appear reluctant to hand over much for picks.

Portland is not asking them to. As it stands, the Blazers are hoping teams will at least be willing to accept their bad contracts in draft deals, reluctant to continuing to pay tax on a team that won 41 games. It’s the best way to address a roster crowded with mediocrity, one careening toward a hefty tax payment.


NBA trade rumors: Trail Blazers open to dealing draft picks, SN sources say
 

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Sources: Knicks, Blazers talk 1st-round pick

So Phil was asking for Harkless and the pick to take on a shytty contract
:jbhmm:

Make sense if they take Turner or Crabbe and put that next to Noah then then Knicks would have two of the worse contracts in the league on their books
:ehh:
Like I am pretty sure the Nyets are asking for less but I don't know if Portland will fukk with them since that poison pill for Crabbe is what is forcing them to cut salary now

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Sources: Knicks, Blazers talk 1st-round pick

So Phil was asking for Harkless and the pick to take on a shytty contract
:jbhmm:

Make sense if they take Turner or Crabbe and put that next to Noah then then Knicks would have two of the worse contracts in the league on their books
:ehh:
Like I am pretty sure the Nyets are asking for less but I don't know if Portland will fukk with them since that poison pill for Crabbe is what is forcing them to cut salary now

:hubie:
Low key, I'm wondering whether we'd be able to go full rebuild on steroids and swap harkless/crabbe or harkless/turner or some combination in exchange for O'quinn and Lee for all of those picks.

Assuming they really need to clear space and want serious glue guys to help fill gaps to get to playoff contention.
 

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Low key, I'm wondering whether we'd be able to go full rebuild on steroids and swap harkless/crabbe or harkless/turner or some combination in exchange for O'quinn and Lee for all of those picks.

Assuming they really need to clear space and want serious glue guys to help fill gaps to get to playoff contention.

I have a feeling Portland is shedding salaries. O'Quinn makes sense because they need a backup big for Nurkic and he'll likely be better than anyone they can draft in the 20's.

If Lee is moved he's gonna get thrown into a Ricky Rubio trade. Salaries match and Lee would let them move Lavine to a 6th man role.
 

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If the Knicks trade down, it's gon be some dread head [knicksfans] in the lobby...

KENDRICK :wow:
The only way I see this is if the Knicks GM is on some Garry Kasporav 8 moves ahead of you chess shyt...

Where the Celtics and Melo agreed that they'd be willing partners for the no. 1 pick but it would have to be Melo and another substantial player. That substantial player would be tradeable for a collection of picks in the teens but an 8th pick would be too expensive so we traded down, kept one and traded the other two and Lee or someone for a SOLID above average player on a good contract and then flipped HIM, Melo and the pick that was remaining for the no. 1 and some pieces.

:wow: It's all fantasy, though.
 
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