Nah. Don't play dumb. Nobody thinks that a deluded, uninformed segment of fans is impacting play on the court. Nobody is arguing that. Don't do the strawman thing, it's boring. [I've seen posters & tweets from sports journalists who've argued the only reason Dolan gets away w/ anything, including not tanking correctly, is because the "dumb" fans are rooting for, essentially, a small cup of water in the middle of the fires of hell. It sounds like you've been lucky enough to somehow avoid that cliche talking point. That's what's up.]
"I've seen stupid arguments" is not an argument, bruh. Don't bring me other people's bad ideas, and use them as evidence.
What's happening is, you have a group of fans who were wrong about this team, and have been now for 2-3 years. They have been all over the board, talking shyt to fans of better teams, talking up the Knicks as a 3-4 seed in the east. And they were dead wrong. [Is this something that's unique to this fanbase? This...is sports entertainment we are talking about right? Talking shyt to others fans is what feeds the machine...and this is an internet forum. It's bizarre. Have you always been right about all of your boastful opinions? "People get shot everyday, b." There is nothing wrong with a fan hoping the way his team's cards have been dealt will, with some miracle, be a royal flush. Maybe you're saying those type of fans shouldn't use the "rose colored goggles" when debating sports, okay, I agree, but don't hold you're breath.]
Again, "knick fans aren't the only ones" is a deflection. This is not a referendum on every fan everywhere, this is me talking about people in THIS thread, who got their feelings hurt for being wrong. I'm up front about my own misguided ideas/projections/predictions. That is how I have learned more about the game. It is how I grew up. There is nothing wrong with hoping their ill-formed ideas will still work out, there IS something wrong with knowingly bringing debunked ideas to a debate. Or straight up making things up on the fly. WHAT ABOUT THE HEAT THO. Stop.
They don't like the idea of tanking, so they twist and spin as much as they can, pointing to other teams and rosters in sideways attempts to still feel like they were right. And then come in here, when the knicks win, to get some satisfaction off the fact that the knicks situation is getting worse, not better.[Again, they? They doesn't always denote plural, but, you seem to be implying it's a large enough group to complain about like it's an epidemic.]
It's not an epidemic. I'm saying "they" because I'm not interested in repeatedly naming a handful of posters. You know who they are. Why play dumb?
And it is done under the label of "trolling" because they're feelings are hurt. It's spite, and it's silly. Dudes don't wanna get on board with the obvious answer, because they want to hold onto their misguided and debunked ideas of how a team should be ran.[See, again, "they." I have seen a transition of Knicks fans who still don't like intentionally losing but are perfectly okay w/ calling the season a failure and hoping we don't make future crippling FA signings and get a great pick in the lottery. Personally, I've even detailed my own feelings on the why I think tanking isn't = rebuild 1:1. People have discussed they have a balance of concern for both the fan who paid to watch a good game today and the desire to see this team in a period of success. Most, if not all, of the Knicks posters have hunkered down w/ the idea that we'll all never agree to a middle ground. Objectively, it should be water under the bridge for everyone.]
Objectively, it should have never been an argument. Because the knicks have been trash for a while now, and have needed to rebuild for years. We're not talking about objectivity. We're talking about fans in a thread, acting excited that the knicks are doing things to harm their future. And you're defending it, like "boys will be boys."
This kinda behavior is all over the internet, and it always comes from the same place -- insecurity.
Which is fine, that's a THEM thing. But stop trying to flip it like its somebody else's fault. Or like any posters think their message board words are changing the knicks play. Nobody said that. Fans have, at best, a nominal effect on players.[Again, maybe you have those posters on ignore but I know I've seen posters state "loyal to a fault" fans are the reason why we've seen such tragedy in Knicks moves.]
But that has been the case with you for several years running now.
At using the Miami Heat as an example, what they are doing is asinine and will hurt the organization in the long term. They are gonna get bumped in the first round and be stuck picking in the middle of the draft, they currently have no first tier star on their roster nor anyone who has the potential to become one. They are gonna be stuck picking in the teens, where the probability of them getting a player with great upside is relatively slim. I would not want the Knicks to do what they are doing.
gotta look at the bright side. If Maurice N'Dour is putting up a double-double against playoff hopeful squads while KP sits, I'll just take the L and chalk it up to indian burial grounds under MSG. N'dour...double-double...wtf 
Come on Duke. I get that you're not a Melo fan and all that but the bolded is just ridiculous.
now.
That's where most of his upside stems from. I think the only other guard in this league who has that kind of height to wingspan differential is Dwayne Wade( 6'4", 6'11")
